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The facts are though nvidia did screw up the launch, even the greenest of fanboys will be hurt by this garbage and price gouging isnt tolerated by whichever brand you favour. If I was AMD and they knew their cards will be just as good, they need to limit sales (1 per account/household whatever) and be clever learning from nvidias mistakes.
Because to save the company more effort had to be concentrated in one area. The potential to make money with cpus was and still is a lot higher.Why do AMD no longer compete at the high end for Radeon?
They have the Halo product 3990X Threadripper which even though it's stupidly expensive, it's good marketing for the rest of the Ryzen range. The Halo effect DOES work.
Because to save the company more effort had to be concentrated in one area. The potential to make money with cpus was and still is a lot higher.
Ryzen is fine. They now need to focus on Radeon.
Yeah now they can but these things take time. Revenue generated from Ryzen will now be helping to produce better gpus but they take years to develop.Ryzen is fine. They now need to focus on Radeon.
https://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/13/technology/companies/13chip.html
Its been payed. Were it went? i am not the AMD CEO so ask her.
I will gladly replace 100+ FPS for 60 with RT ON, which is why I am replacing my 1080Ti FTW3 with a 3080. Nvidia's 20 series was very much a beta for RT, now with the 30 series we get the much faster and usable 2nd gen. I'd love AMD to compete with Nvidia in this area, but I just can't see it happening. You also have to factor in that engines such as UE have built in support for RT now so it is something we will see a lot more of next year. I'll just add that I'm no great fan of Nvidia.
"Bankrolled"Yeah its happened before, thats my point.
EU has been bankrolling AMD for decades. So AMD didnt exactly save themselves.....more like its been propped up by EU for years.
People forget just how much money is involved with these companies, that includes AMD, AMD R&D spend is 30% higher than Nvidia.
A Billion Dollars is chump change to AMD. Well... maybe not but its not that significant.
AMD spends 30% more money for R&D than Nvidia and yet Nvidia manages to reveal cards up to 100-110-120% faster than the best AMD can get.
I am going to take some pillss... this reality is insane.![]()
which games specifically are you excited to see RT on?
I have a 2080 and I've played a fair few of them (just for a little whilse to appreciate the visual fidelity). I was doing SOTR just a week ago and honestly, with RTX on, I was... well underwhelmed. Sure it looks nice as in shadows look softer and more natural... but... in the grand scheme of things I'd take a big chunk of extra FPS as it just didn't change the scene much. I did a bit of a test comparison with family members and they just couldn't tell the difference and at times, sometimes I couldn't.
I hope you're right in that RT gets used more but at the end of the day consoels are top priority. If consoles do RT, sure we'll see RT. If they don't, then I just don't see the library of Ray traced games exceeding 50 in the next 2-3 years.
Control: 1440p, DX12, High, High RT, TAA
2080 35
2080Ti 46
3080 70
Metro Exodus: 1440p, DX12, Ultra, Ultra RT, TAA
2080 51
2080Ti 66
3080 90
Battlefield 5: 1440p, DX12, Ultra, Ultra RT, TAA
2080 70
2080Ti 92
3080 115
Quake 2: 1440p, RTX, Vulkan, Max Settings
2080 31
2080Ti 41
3080 62
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AMD R&D is for GPU and CPU. Nvidia's is only for GPU.AMD spends 30% more money for R&D than Nvidia and yet Nvidia manages to reveal cards up to 100-110-120% faster than the best AMD can get.
I am going to take some pillss... this reality is insane.![]()
Because they're developing gpu's and cpu's and chipsets so obviously their spend will be higher, thought that would have been obvious.
I was watching a architect breakdown and one of the advantages of the consoles using RDNA2 with its RT solution, is that developers can program the excution order of code in a way that benefits AMD implementation of RT over Nvidias.If most games will be developed on next Gen consoles using AMD architecture, wouldn't that mean these games will be more compatible when ported to the PC with better performance then a similar Nvidia GPU?