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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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Jayztwocents latest video basically blamed everyone except Nvidia for their launch. Not that i was massively surprised though.
Like Jack White's chunkier brother
His religion is Nvidia.
This is not true. Nvidia has more different dies in development than AMD. What does AMD have - one chiplet that rules them all, one IO die, one Renoir, Navi 11 and Navi 14. Now count how many different SKUs Nvidia has in comparison. The whole Turing line has more than that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadro
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Nvidia has the Tegra CPU. They also just bought ARM so techinically they also produce CPU's. Just because AMD spend more doesnt mean to say they are doing it wisely.
They also develop a lot of other things besides GPU's so Chuk Chuk you are not quite correct. Where do you think they got the ideas for the Driverless Car they are involved in making for instance ? Out of some tea leaves at the bottom of a cup ?
It's a waste of time talking to you as you just babble on. Do you think they're not spending resources designing the successor to current gpu's, cpu's and chipsets? Or do you think they just fire it out of their ass after 5 minutes thought? Judging how you constantly go on about "AMD should just do this or that" and your annoying Trump like mentality of thinking you know better no-matter the subject you seemingly MUST think they just have something knocked together in 5 minutes and ready for sale the same day. It's literally YEARS in design and development before these things hit shelves. And how do you think these things get designed and manufactured? *Gasp* With MONEY!
AMD produce both CPU's and gpu's for mainstream and professional use, NVidia only really do that on the gpu side with GeForce and Quadro products. That might well change with ARM.
You are a troll, aren't you?!
Nvidia produces things that you have never heard of. Just stop with this GPUs only BS.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NvidiaProduct families[edit]
An Nvidia Shield Tablet
Nvidia's family includes primarily graphics, wireless communication, PC processors, and automotive hardware/software. Some families are listed below:
- GeForce, consumer-oriented graphics processing products
- Quadro, computer-aided design and digital content creation workstation graphics processing products
- NVS, multi-display business graphics solution
- Tegra, a system on a chip series for mobile devices
- Tesla, dedicated general-purpose GPU for high-end image generation applications in professional and scientific fields
- nForce, a motherboard chipset created by Nvidia for Intel (Celeron, Pentium and Core 2) and AMD (Athlon and Duron) microprocessors
- Nvidia Grid, a set of hardware and services by Nvidia for graphics virtualization
- Nvidia Shield, a range of gaming hardware including the Shield Portable, Shield Tablet and, most recently, the Shield Android TV
- Nvidia Drive automotive solutions, a range of hardware and software products for assisting car drivers. The Drive PX-series is a high performance computer platform aimed at autonomous driving through deep learning,[78] while Driveworks is an operating system for driverless cars.[79]
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Pretty sure nobody said they ONLY produce gpu's, and well done on listing nforce, that might have been relevant about a decade or more ago. And you might want to look up what nvs and tesla are, hint, they're gpu's.
And you calling someone a troll, lmao. Do you even read your own posts? According to you building a cpu and gpu should be about as hard as a 4 piece jigsaw puzzle and be available the same day.
None of us know what AMD spent developing just rdna 2 or what Nvidia spent on just Ampere. What we do know it takes a long time and money doesn't magically turn into success.
When AMD were first developing this architecture it was likely back when they were at the peak of their struggles, laying off staff and downsizing. Let's not forget that It takes thousands of engineers to make a gpu.
Just be grateful they are still around or it would be 3070s for £1500.
When AMD were first developing this architecture it was likely back when they were at the peak of their struggles, laying off staff and downsizing. Let's not forget that It takes thousands of engineers to make a gpu.
Just be grateful they are still around or it would be 3070s for £1500.
Pretty sure it's the money AMD currently are rolling in from Ryzen sales that has kept the entire company viable.
Obviously being guaranteed customers like Sony/Microsoft makes it easy to carry on investing in graphics, however the margins on those sales is very low.
Below you can see semi-custom revenue makes very little operating income. In Q1 it in fact made a loss.
https://d1io3yog0oux5.cloudfront.net/_647cbc9eb9a760a6b117301da9b09591/amd/db/778/6583/file/AMD+Q2'20+Earnings+Slides.pdf
What could be interesting is any potential input MS and Sony have had towards improving the architecture.
Probably little to nothing at all. That's what they pay AMD for.
Errr, nope. It's a semi-custom chip. Both MS and Sony will have had plenty of input.
It's not like MS and Sony don't know anything about chip design
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Errr, nope. It's a semi-custom chip. Both MS and Sony will have had plenty of input.
It's not like MS and Sony don't know anything about chip design
Its even more influence than you think. I would say AMD have least say in the process once they agree the basics.
Rumour has it the Sony engineers were mocking AMD that they could make a better design of it.
Errr, nope. It's a semi-custom chip. Both MS and Sony will have had plenty of input.
It's not like MS and Sony don't know anything about chip design
Of course they had input, AMD funded it though. There may have been clauses in the agreement whereby MS and Sony paid X for milestones met with regards to the development of the SoC.
I find that unlikely.
Jay has been ******* me off recently which his constant shutting on AMD cpus
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