AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

[gpuerrilla]

100% this, RIS is amazing, I've used it ever since and allows me to run 4k ultra settings in BF5 at 70-100fps... and looks fantastic... you would 100% swear you're running native 4k!

DLSS 1.0 was an abomination of softeness just like overly AA use just smudges everything out...... and AMD never ever got the plaudits for RIS. It's superb!

The 6900Xt does NOT need RT imho, concentrate on PURE POWER which is where 99% of all games are! RT won't be a factor until gen3, gen2, I'm absolutely not interested in it at all and I think a lot of gamers aren't either.

I was watching a few sources and if you match what they are saying - taking for example Linus and Tech jesus' take on 8k gaming, 1) we are nowhere near ready for that and 2) the displays are ridiculously expensive.

So returning to the point of DLSS and raytracing, we are as you say another Gen or two away from it being decent. If the 3800 is now the 'best for 1440p class' for all settings max - then we have not reached the bar of 4k gaming yet and the raytracing is just gimping the games (handful that support it).

 

[ShortWarning]

The DLSS 4K image isn't necessarily at 4K. It could be 1800p to get those frame rates up and then upscaled with the AI. Same applies to RIS: render at 1800p native to boost frames, upscale to 4K and then sharpen it up.

I understand that but for all intents and purposes your monitor recognises it as a 4k image.

Maybe I haven't delved deep enough but can you do the same thing with RIS? IE, set it to 1080p turn RIS on and it's upscaled to 4k?

 

[FoxEye]

Don't take it personally.

Oh I'm used to being insulted, I just prefer it when the insults make sense I'll take being called a **** anytime over being called an NPC... at least I understand the former

 

[gpuerrilla]

Oh I'm used to being insulted, I just prefer it when the insults make sense I'll take being called a **** anytime over being called an NPC... at least I understand the former

OK Boomer!

 

[LePhuronn]

I understand that but for all intents and purposes your monitor recognises it as a 4k image.

Maybe I haven't delved deep enough but can you do the same thing with RIS? IE, set it to 1080p turn RIS on and it's upscaled to 4k?

That is literally what I said in my reply So yes, render internally at 1800p, upscale that image to 4K for output and then use RIS to sharpen up the softness.

Reading for you:
https://www.techspot.com/article/1873-radeon-image-sharpening-vs-nvidia-dlss/

 

[KentMan]

Now how should we read this:
https://twitter.com/AzorFrank/status/1309479671210352643?s=20

I read that as a kinda back handed complement to. Nvidia but still a dig none the less lol

Hes basically saying it takes a lot of work to get the level of die size required for 3080/3090 products, and even though the 3090 is basically trash compared to the 3080 its still an impressive feat.

I bet hes not saying that behind closed doors though, probably laughing at Nvidias mountain of fail with Ampere

 

[jonneymendoza]

COME ON BIG NAVI!! DO A RYZAN!!!!

 

[humbug]

Now how should we read this:
https://twitter.com/AzorFrank/status/1309479671210352643?s=20

Confidence or hype?

I think what he's saying is its all amazing, even if its crap.

@ShortWarning what @LePhuronn said.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Nothingburger that tweet.

 

[Troezar]

I read that as a kinda back handed complement to. Nvidia but still a dig none the less lol

Hes basically saying it takes a lot of work to get the level of die size required for 3080/3090 products, and even though the 3090 is basically trash compared to the 3080 its still an impressive feat.

I bet hes not saying that behind closed doors though, probably laughing at Nvidias mountain of fail with Ampere

We all know where monolithic dies got Intel. They'll all be following AMD's chiplet approach in time.

 

[Shiari]

That tweet could really be taken anywhere ....

 

[KentMan]

That tweet could really be taken anywhere ....

He cant exactly laugh at Nvidia openly but i read that as a cleverly veiled dig at their 3090 vs 3080

 

[humbug]

 

[ShortWarning]

That is literally what I said in my reply So yes, render internally at 1800p, upscale that image to 4K for output and then use RIS to sharpen up the softness.

Reading for you:
https://www.techspot.com/article/1873-radeon-image-sharpening-vs-nvidia-dlss/

i see, sounds good. All I have is a slider for the amount (unless I’m looking at the wrong thing). How do you set it to upscale?

 

[LePhuronn]

i see, sounds good. All I have is a slider for the amount (unless I’m looking at the wrong thing). How do you set it to upscale?

You don't, you set resolution scaling to 80% or something elsewhere in the driver. RIS is a post processor, so it'll get added to the image after the downsampled image is blown back up again.

I don't have a 5700 XT, maybe ask @humbug ?

 

[gpuerrilla]

Or @JediFragger

 

[humbug]

i see, sounds good. All I have is a slider for the amount (unless I’m looking at the wrong thing). How do you set it to upscale?

Turn on Super Resolution and RIS. in your game set a lower than native resolution for higher performance or keep it at native resolution and enjoy the sharper image.

 

[JediFragger]

Thanks @humbug will give that a try on my 4k, don't think have tried it.

 

[humbug]

 

[gpuerrilla]

Thanks @humbug will give that a try on my 4k, don't think have tried it.