ARCHIVE - *** NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 SERIES STOCK SITUATION *** - NO COMPETITOR DISCUSSION

[TrinerScot]

It is really surprising that the FE is the best card according to this discovery of capacitor choice/placements..
AiB's have really messed us, cheaping out on parts, lack of timelines, price inflations. what else is left?

Not all the AiBs, apparently the ASUS TUF has no such issues and I'd imagine the more high-end AiB cards also will pack more expensive parts.
But yeah, it looks like some of the cheaper models from some of them will struggle to hit higher clocks without problems.

 

[Johhny199]

I'll point out again that a number of us have mentioned since Monday that the order number we have doesn't align with our order time.

I really hope they aren't using the order number, or whatever time they managed to sync up their payment system to the store system, because despite ordering at 3:16pm on the 17th, and the money leaving my account then, my order didn't change from awaiting payment confirmation to order recieved between Saturday night and Sunday morning. That was nothing to do with any of us, it was their servers fairling under the load of orders. I think some of us would be understandably upset if we were days back in the queue due to OC's server issues.

I already emailed OC,and they confirmed that I joined the queue at the moment of placing the order not when the payment was processed

 

[mjeccs]

I guess @mjeccs you haven't seen Jayztwocents video on it.. Jayz only talks about it when its dead serious..
Cant fix sketchy components with an update, they went below spec to save money and customers are paying the price

The capacitor placement has been cheaped out to save money .

Yeh I have seen it it didn’t pay much attention. Not his biggest fan to be honest though. Just seems like a rushed launch. Fix may be limiting power draw? Could be the reason Zotac clocks lower?

 

[DTUOHY96]

THIS

Can you let me know when someones missus makes them send it back? Thats out of my budget currently but B grade might be doable

 

[Nickoglas]

THIS

Oh boy, here I go spendin’ again.
There were some opinions in this thread that 32” was better for 4K.
Currently got an Asus 27” 1440 and I feel like 27” is a good size for me, don’t have to scan around the monitor if that makes sense.

 

[DTUOHY96]

Oh boy, here I go spendin’ again.
There were some opinions in this thread that 32” was better for 4K.
Currently got an Asus 27” 1440 and I feel like 27” is a good size for me, don’t have to scan around the monitor if that makes sense.

My current 1440 is a 32" and I agree, I'll probably downsize to 27" when the time comes

 

[BIG Phil]

The ability to fulfil the orders depends upon the board partners ability to provide us with enough stock.

We haven't yet had this info to be able to inform our customers about when we'll be be able to fulfill their orders.

I suspect what some people on here are struggling to understand is why it is so difficult to get an idea of the numbers. Demand may have been unprecedented (although it really should not have been unexpected) but it seems odd that the figures for supply are unknown. I imagine there are a number of uncertainties in manufacturing (particularly during a global pandemic) but I would very much expect that each board partner would know their own anticipated production figures and would already have very firm plans for how their products will be distributed. We are talking here about very sophisticated multi-billion USD companies, some of which operate fully-automated production lines. I am not sure how they would function effectively (and profitably) if they were not able to reliably predict the number of products they will supply over the coming months. The logistics involved in the distribution of those products should also be fairly predictable even under the current circumstances.

Therefore, the current mysticism around expected stock figures and ETAs seems a little odd for those of us not familiar with the industry.

 

[RetiaryCloud]

Are overclockers still open on weekends?

 

[Jammy_Dodger]

I'm responsible for monitor purchasing so I look forward to you all grabbing monitor upgrades

I see the new 360hz asus monitor is finally up for pre order. Any news on the 2nd asus, acer, alienware and msi ones will be available? Specifically interested in the ones with the nvidia reflex analyser built in.

 

[Enfluencexi]

Few questions

Saw a post from an OC rep saying that it didn't matter what time we ordered but what time the payment went through? Is that true? I ordered at 2:02 and used Amazon pay so it took a bit longer from then...

What about the ftw3, is that ****** by cheap components as well?

 

[Tutan]

You're joking right?

Or do I have to explain. How it works when Nvidia send out to AIBs?

go watch the video posted above to understand what's going on..it's all about cheaping out on components , poorly designed boards + OC done by third party manufacturers, the nvidia's own FE is having ZERO issues reported.

 

[Lastof]

I already emailed OC,and they confirmed that I joined the queue at the moment of placing the order not when the payment was processed

Good to hear. It seems the sensible way to do it (and to match what @NikTheSHNIK has said over the last couple of hours). My plan was to wait till the official queue gave the answer either way (they fact that the order confirmation has the correct order time in means they clearly have that data, so it made no sense they wouldn't use it), and in the worst case politely but persitently bug customer service till it was fix. Glad I won't have to do that.

 

[mjeccs]

I suspect what some people on here are struggling to understand is why it is so difficult to get an idea of the numbers. Demand may have been unprecedented (although it really should not have been unexpected) but it seems odd that the figures for supply are unknown. I imagine there are a number of uncertainties in manufacturing (particularly during a global pandemic) but I would very much expect that each board partner would know their own anticipated production figures and would already have very firm plans for how their products will be distributed. We are talking here about very sophisticated multi-billion USD companies, some of which operate fully-automated production lines. I am not sure how they would function effectively (and profitably) if they were not able to reliably predict the number of products they will supply over the coming months. The logistics involved in the distribution of those products should also be fairly predictable even under the current circumstances.

Therefore, the current mysticism around expected stock figures and ETAs seems a little odd for those of us not familiar with the industry.

Can you imagine having the capacity and resource of a multi billion dollar company and not getting as far as working out where the trucks are headed? . Of course company’s know what and when they are getting cards. They don’t fill the trucks and set off in random direction. Its also ludicrous to think they don’t have production targets for how many cards will be supplied each day. We are led to believe that these companies are complete amateurs!

 

[Dean Guile]

go watch the video posted above to understand what's going on..it's all about cheaping out on components , poorly designed boards + OC done by third party manufacturers, the nvidia's own FE is having ZERO issues reported.

You answered your own question, go watch the video yourself, you need to do this.
Looks like I do have to explain for you.

Ok, so, when Nvidia send out the PCBS they have to, well NEED to send out a minimum requirements list to meet the demand of the GPU chip, clealrly nvidias minimum is not enough, which has allowed all these AIBS to run these chip parts, now if NVIDIA, yes that's right NVIDIA I said, had tested properly and extensively they would know the minimum requirement is TOO LOW, as we can see from just the general public, so im sure if the general public are getting problems why the hell could Nvidia not.

Now it's in nvidias best interest to get the "MINIMUM REQUIRED SPEC" right for their own good, afterall NVIDIAs name is on ALL the boxes, and it's their GPU chip.

Now if Nvidia had sent out a revised more moderate minimum spec, say at least 2 arrays of MLCC, or minimum of 1, rather than NONE (which in this case is SHOCKING as we can see) this would not be a problem right now.

So in answer to your original statement of it's not nvidias fault. IT IS VERY MUCH NVIDIAS Fault (AIBS never had enough time to test themselves in all this rush for stable flow, so it's down to nvidia to get the minimum requirements right) All this is explained also in Jays latest video.

 

[mjeccs]

go watch the video posted above to understand what's going on..it's all about cheaping out on components , poorly designed boards + OC done by third party manufacturers, the nvidia's own FE is having ZERO issues reported.

You are unfortunately VERY wrong if you think that the FE is having ‘ZERO issues’

 

[Dean Guile]

You are unfortunately VERY wrong if you think that the FE is having ‘ZERO issues’

Don't worry, I explained quite extensively, or tried to a few posts above to him.

 

[Lastof]

Few questions

Saw a post from an OC rep saying that it didn't matter what time we ordered but what time the payment went through? Is that true? I ordered at 2:02 and used Amazon pay so it took a bit longer from then...

What about the ftw3, is that ****** by cheap components as well?

I assume you are refering to this post

It's based on when payment was validated I believe.

My reading is that what @NikTheSHNIK was actually answering there is the discussion of was causes the order number to be generated, initail order, or payment processing (which is in the post quoted by the post he replied to).

Earlier on they posted the following, which is not only more detailed, but seems to make clear that they've put a lot of effort into making sure all orders are accounted for and in the correct order, and that is why the queue details aren't a thing we can see yet.

As each order payment took a different time to process depending upon payment type/terms their order number doesn't match up to the times that orders were taken.

At that point we can no longer use a difference in order number to determine a place in queue.

Add into that the fact we were still processing payments and cancellations until yesterday (I was helping out but there was still webnotes to clear from days before) an individual order's queue position was changing hourly, therefore an accurate queue position was impossible to convey.

For example there were a ton of American customers who'd ordered not realizing they'd have to pay sales tax. Each one had to contact us and tell us they'd cancel and each one bumped someone else up a place in the queue.

We tried to get through all the queries as quickly as possible. Hopefully someone waiting a day/few days after their order and being able to give them an accurate idea of their order position (after we'd cleared those wanting to cancel and all those whose payments hadn't cleared), is better than giving them an inaccurate queue position.

Hopefully at that point we'd also have more info from Nvidia and the board partners about inventory/etas and be able to provide a more accurate queue position/stock eta.

Sometimes these things take days rather than hours.

I know one of the sales guys answered over 300 webnotes about 3080 orders one day, on top of the normal workload! That's 1.6 webnotes a minute that day, and we were all hands to the pump between us to help out and answer them. There was a couple of days I answered 100 3080 queries and I'm supposed to be managing peripherals and monitors!

 

[NikTheSHNIK]

I see the new 360hz asus monitor is finally up for pre order. Any news on the 2nd asus, acer, alienware and msi ones will be available? Specifically interested in the ones with the nvidia reflex analyser built in.

Not yet.

We've got about 20 of the Asus coming in next week.

If you want a 360hz this year i'd pre-order the ASUS before they all get snapped up.

 

[mjeccs]

Don't worry, I explained quite extensively, or tried to a few posts above to him.

Thanks man. So much misinformation been spread here.

 

[Dean Guile]

Hopefully the 3080 MSI Trio X has 2 MLCC like their 3090 does, as the 3090FE also has 2.

I'll be semi confident not to cancel just yet if MSI Trio X 3080 is running with the 2 MLCC like FE.