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ARCHIVE - *** NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 SERIES STOCK SITUATION *** - NO COMPETITOR DISCUSSION

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SeeNoWeevil said:
@NikTheSHNIK

I don't suppose you can give any comment at all on why the users who ordered the Zotac very early (14:04) still don't have their cards given it was one of the most unpopular and several shipments have been confirmed for that card? It's incredibly frustrating/confusing to see.
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Especially as Gibbo said more Zotec stock was incoming the following week?
 
Only thing that bothers me with the 3080 is the 10GB vram. It should really be more but they gonna sell that to you for a premium, probably another 200 pounds.

In 2 years 20GB will be the norm, my only comfort though is that in 3 years when it’s time to upgrade the 3080 would be worth maybe 300 quid and I’ll just put that towards the a future card as if did with my 11GB 1080 ti. Yes it had more.

I feel the 3080 has been cost down with 10GB to make as much profit to the masses as possible. Sure a base price of 650 is a great price for a card but I can’t help feeling some games In a year will have texture detail one notch down.
 
See this is why I'm waiting on a gamersnexus video before worrying too much. Jay tends to jump on bandwagons and to me seems to be pretty limited in his knowledge compared to what he says he knows. He's also got a history of getting things wrong and then disabling comments on his videos like a petulant man child.

I've seen multiple electrical engineers dismissing the theory that the POSCAPs are necessarily bad, including a commenter here, I reckon it's a driver issue.
 
@Vsynced I doubt they have time to chase around after I.T.

Not only will they be operating with reduced staff due to the global pandemic but they also have to process thousands of orders for the 30 series cards.

Your expectations are ridiculous if you think they're gonna be on at they're I.T. department everyday cos people on a forum can't show patience.
 
omaigadlol said:
There are no cards available. There never were.
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Yes is basically a paper launch, I don’t care what anyone else says (all the reviewers with their free sample cards). In all my years of buying gpus this is just a bad joke. I’m afraid to say this is the way it’s gonna be from now on. I will never sell my old card until their are stocks of the next gen. it used to be ok. Not anymore.

Selling to the US, bots, scalers people who don’t even play games. The world is mad.
 
SniperSmithy said:
See this is why I'm waiting on a gamersnexus video before worrying too much. Jay tends to jump on bandwagons and to me seems to be pretty limited in his knowledge compared to what he says he knows. He's also got a history of getting things wrong and then disabling comments on his videos like a petulant man child.

I've seen multiple electrical engineers dismissing the theory that the POSCAPs are necessarily bad, including a commenter here, I reckon it's a driver issue.
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Jay is just a wanna be. I want to like him and I do, just his content is trying to bat higher than his league. Best of luck to him though makes some good dough. More than we can say.
 
Vsynced said:
I want to address this by saying, why has there not been more communication between yourselves and the IT department about this matter?

So you have been told that IT are working on one but in your own words you say "when it will be ready I don't know" but it was just the other day that Gibbo told everyone to "give us a few days to come up with a solution" well it's been 6 days since that post was made, I don't quite understand how you don't have any form of ETA on when the system will be ready?
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(Disclaimer: numbers are entirely made up).

Ask 90% of developers on this planet when "feature X" will be ready, they'll be honest and tell you don't know. They might be able to have a rough idea when (and we've been given this rough idea; originally it was "a few days", now it's "a week or two"). And a lot of the time this not knowing is not just because of difficulty in estimating the time implementing a feature takes in itself, but also because there'll often be other things to tackle at the same time and priorities can shift rapidly.

Another 5% might have a good idea because they're almost done, they have no big remaining blockers, and their current and near-future workload appears to be predictable.

Ask the remaining 5% of developers, they'll give you an answer but they're lying to you, they don't actually know, and most of the time they'll be way off the mark, they were just trying to please you.

Estimating software development is incredibly difficult.
 
Shiari said:
(Disclaimer: numbers are entirely made up).

Ask 90% of developers on this planet when "feature X" will be ready, they'll be honest and tell you don't know. They might be able to have a rough idea when (and we've been given this rough idea; originally it was "a few days", now it's "a week or two"). And a lot of the time this not knowing is not just because of difficulty in estimating the time implementing a feature takes in itself, but also because there'll often be other things to tackle at the same time and priorities can shift rapidly.

Another 5% might have a good idea because they're almost done, they have no big remaining blockers, and their current and near-future workload appears to be predictable.

Ask the remaining 5% of developers, they'll give you an answer but they're lying to you, they don't actually know, and most of the time they'll be way off the mark, they were just trying to please you.

Estimating software development is incredibly difficult.
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But they don't even have to create software here?

They can literally have a webpage with an input box where you input your order number and it references a database and spits out a number.
As someone else also mentioned here, it would take 15 minutes to export to excel, sort, export as csv and then mail merge out.
 
I ordered my card and I must say, I've used numerous vendors around the UK and this site is not doing anything differently to anyone else. I was disappointed not to have got my card at launch, but waiting gives me something to look forward to and at least I am in the queue. I didn't feel mislead and cancelling the order here and ordering somewhere else (to punish this site for whatever reason) will only place me lower in the queue somewhere else with no advantage to me whatsoever. I would rather be in a queue than to keep hitting F5 on <other sites> waiting against all hope for a card to become available. I think there was a combination of artificial scarcity on NVidia's behalf coupled with extreme demand, so I do believe even they (and the AIB's) were caught off guard. I guess they dreamt the 2080ti would sell in the bucket loads and they didn't want a repeat of that. Where they could get into trouble is if the backlog goes into release of the AMD cards and if there is a equitable performance for a lower cost or even better performance, NVidia could find itself stuck with inventory as people 'defect' to AMD. This is why I believe they are pulling out all the stops to prevent that from happening. I have to stick to NVidia because Divinci resolve uses Cuda cores.
 
Starocean85 said:
But they don't even have to create software here?

They can literally have a webpage with an input box where you input your order number and it references a database and spits out a number.
As someone else also mentioned here, it would take 15 minutes to export to excel, sort, export as csv and then mail merge out.
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That too is software. That reads potentially sensitive data (data leaks). Might give commercially sensitive data away. It could bring in a security vulnerability that exposes all of their systems. And then there's that a single number from a queue wouldn't tell you anything whatsoever about when your particular card might be dispatched (as per Nik's posts), so how useful is that really?
 
Shiari said:
That too is software. That reads potentially sensitive data (data leaks). Might give commercially sensitive data away. It could bring in a security vulnerability that exposes all of their systems. And then there's that a single number from a queue wouldn't tell you anything whatsoever about when your particular card might be dispatched (as per Nik's posts), so how useful is that really?
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Never argued whether it was useful or not. To be honest, getting a queue number without also getting an idea of when stock is coming in, is pointless.

I suspect their IT could possibly be outsourced and they're dealing with SLA's etc.

Even taking all your points into account, it's still something that could be knocked together in a day.
 
@harney not funnny but on the matter
@HMax Ye got number to call in case i feel like harming someone.

If it goes for this cards crashing problems.

Time to fire up bbq and get my steak fix.
 
Dynarush333 said:
Don't know about anyone else, but I'm tempted to get my money back and go AMD and get the AMD card from somewhere else.

Between the ****** launch, faulty cards and OCUK taking money and not being transparent I've had enough.

I think this mess could get even worse, with the demand and pressure to produce more cards quickly, how many more hardware defects are going to happen? Nvidia didn't give AIBs enough time nor did they even give them a working driver until it was time to send them out for reviews. Nvidia has really been scummy as have some retailers. It totally kills the enjoyment we should have when spending over £700. Not only that but the next kick in the balls is when a 20gb card will come out and we already have the 10gb one. Where is the transparency so we can make a choice? People knew when Zen2 came out there was going to be a 16 core released later so people could decide on whether or not to wait or get something else. These companies act like they're doing us a favour, but the truth is, it's us that are doing them the favour.

I'm going to wait until the end of next week and see what happens. Never felt so conflicted over something that should be enjoyable.
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I think NV gave AMD a massive chance to win some Customers back with the situation. Depends if AMD can deliver GPUs tho... They making GPUs CPUs and ALL Xbox and PS5 consoles that allot of silicone. And I think they will put MS/Sony in front of even CPUs to deliver the product.
 
Starocean85 said:
And yet someone on here last night posted pics of them getting a Palit to 2200MHz stable on stock cooler.
That pretty much rubbishes this theory of caps being the issues, especially given the fact Palit are using lower quality caps.
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Mix of silicon lottery + caps more than likely, caps are a genuine issue otherwise EVGA wouldn't have released their statement regarding to changing the design and the fact some manufacturers even recalled review samples.

Its all GPU Boost which is the root of the problem in the end.
 
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