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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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Wow, cheapo parts on teh AIB's for the 3080s jesus...
https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/evga-nvidia-rtx-3080-capacitor-caused-crashes
Its gets better and better for AMD this, they really need to jump on this and ensure 6000 series is as smooth as possible.... this is their big chance... see a weakness pounce on it, nVidia would destroy AMD for this...
https://www.tomshardware.com/uk/news/evga-nvidia-rtx-3080-capacitor-caused-crashes
Its gets better and better for AMD this, they really need to jump on this and ensure 6000 series is as smooth as possible.... this is their big chance... see a weakness pounce on it, nVidia would destroy AMD for this...
I'd love it if they did bring back crossfire, I've had 3080 performance in the games I play for the last three years with 1080TI SLI and want a proper upgrade!I hope they bring back crossfire... am yet to play some AAA dx11 titles that support it..
The only downside is that Apple fanatics will be getting back at me, atleast those that I had rubbed the wrong way
If AMD miss this chance to take back market share and eventually the crown then they deserve all that's happened over last 10 years. I hope they take this opportunity, just need the right price and performance.
NVIDIA have messed up their launch.
I genuinely don't think it will because Nvidia fans always forget or more to the point, ignore actual facts. Here are some of the most famous Nvidia mess ups with either design/manufacturing, drivers, messed up launch, outright lies or even all of these at once.
Now we have RTX 30X0 rushed paper launch, with massively overpriced 3090 for a ~10% performance uplift over a competing card less than half its price (they are competing against their own top end GPU). Their own GPU that is half its price has manufacturing defects and serious supply issues.
- Bunpgate
- Fermi
- GTX970 VRAM lies
- Drivers that literally killed GPUs (I lost 2x GTX260s due to Nvidia drivers 196.75)
- Turing release with a massive price bump for pointless features that were (and still aren't) in any way mature enough.
- Excessive marketing lies (it just works, 2x performance etc)
- Locked down standards (G-Sync, PhysX)
I 100% guarantee these issues will ALL be ignored and forgotten in a few months. If RX 6X00 AMD GPUs are released in quantity, with lower price, better power efficiency and similar (or better) performance. You can bet the people who bought RTX 30X0 will find some reason AMD have failed. Pick one or all of the following, they are 2 months later than Nvidia, AMD drivers suck, Nvidia have better features. The only reasonable reply I have heard from a friend was, "I am locked in to G-Sync and refuse to change my monitor". Yet I got only silence when I reminded this individual he bought his G-Sync monitor after Nvidia admitted defeat in the "VRR wars", when they eventually supported Freesync. So he is locked in due to his own lack off foresight, despite my recommendations to go Freesync at the time.
I am not remotely claiming AMD don't have issues but they are not as bad as Nvidia for the outright lying and marketing BS. The truth is when AMD mess up it is more due to incompetency than outright BS and lying. Other than when the muppet Raja was in charge of RTG (how does he keep getting work). The slightest thing results in AMD being labelled for life, Nvidia do much worse and people forget in a few months.
It's the GPU law and must be obeyed.
Let's not forget the texture cheating from the 4600TI in 2002! When I replaced it with a 9700Pro the textures in Battlefield 1942 for grass etc miraculously appeared. Nvidia weren't bothering to draw half the scene which did wonders for their fps.
Another shameful and deliberate act similar to the invisible Tessellated ocean and concrete barrier consisting of billions of triangles in Crysis 2. There are literally no depths Nvidia won't sink to to try and cheat their way to the top spot if they
can't get there legitimately.
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Agreed, when I was running TriFire it was beast but just not consistant unfortnatley... AMD bring crossfire back lol
You'd be wise to cancel the 3080 and wait. You'll feel like a chump if the 6900XT or whatever it is beats the 3080 has 60% more RAM and is the same price or possibly cheaper!
I genuinely don't think it will because Nvidia fans always forget or more to the point, ignore actual facts. Here are some of the most famous Nvidia mess ups with either design/manufacturing, drivers, messed up launch, outright lies or even all of these at once.
Now we have RTX 30X0 rushed paper launch, with massively overpriced 3090 for a ~10% performance uplift over a competing card less than half its price (they are competing against their own top end GPU). Their own GPU that is half its price has manufacturing defects and serious supply issues.
- Bunpgate
- Fermi
- GTX970 VRAM lies
- Drivers that literally killed GPUs (I lost 2x GTX260s due to Nvidia drivers 196.75)
- Turing release with a massive price bump for pointless features that were (and still aren't) in any way mature enough.
- Excessive marketing lies (it just works, 2x performance etc)
- Locked down standards (G-Sync, PhysX)
I 100% guarantee these issues will ALL be ignored and forgotten in a few months. If RX 6X00 AMD GPUs are released in quantity, with lower price, better power efficiency and similar (or better) performance. You can bet the people who bought RTX 30X0 will find some reason AMD have failed. Pick one or all of the following, they are 2 months later than Nvidia, AMD drivers suck, Nvidia have better features. The only reasonable reply I have heard from a friend was, "I am locked in to G-Sync and refuse to change my monitor". Yet I got only silence when I reminded this individual he bought his G-Sync monitor after Nvidia admitted defeat in the "VRR wars", when they eventually supported Freesync. So he is locked in due to his own lack off foresight, despite my recommendations to go Freesync at the time.
I am not remotely claiming AMD don't have issues but they are not as bad as Nvidia for the outright lying and marketing BS. The truth is when AMD mess up it is more due to incompetency than outright BS and lying. Other than when the muppet Raja was in charge of RTG (how does he keep getting work). The slightest thing results in AMD being labelled for life, Nvidia do much worse and people forget in a few months.
It's the GPU law and must be obeyed.
i too have G-Sync monitor, but fancy a return to AMD if they can deliver. I’m hoping one of the Nvidia faithful will take it off my hands for a reasonable sum, or to do a swap with a freesync 1440/144 screen.
Really hope AMD do not give Nvidia a free pass. Would love to see the faces of all the people who were saying they would not even be able to beat a 2080Ti let alone the flagship Ampere card if AMD come out and take the performance crown
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I genuinely don't think it will because Nvidia fans always forget or more to the point, ignore actual facts. Here are some of the most famous Nvidia mess ups with either design/manufacturing, drivers, messed up launch, outright lies or even all of these at once.
Now we have RTX 30X0 rushed paper launch, with massively overpriced 3090 for a ~10% performance uplift over a competing card less than half its price (they are competing against their own top end GPU). Their own GPU that is half its price has manufacturing defects and serious supply issues.
- Bunpgate
- Fermi
- GTX970 VRAM lies
- Drivers that literally killed GPUs (I lost 2x GTX260s due to Nvidia drivers 196.75)
- Turing release with a massive price bump for pointless features that were (and still aren't) in any way mature enough.
- Excessive marketing lies (it just works, 2x performance etc)
- Locked down standards (G-Sync, PhysX)
I 100% guarantee these issues will ALL be ignored and forgotten in a few months. If RX 6X00 AMD GPUs are released in quantity, with lower price, better power efficiency and similar (or better) performance. You can bet the people who bought RTX 30X0 will find some reason AMD have failed. Pick one or all of the following, they are 2 months later than Nvidia, AMD drivers suck, Nvidia have better features. The only reasonable reply I have heard from a friend was, "I am locked in to G-Sync and refuse to change my monitor". Yet I got only silence when I reminded this individual he bought his G-Sync monitor after Nvidia admitted defeat in the "VRR wars", when they eventually supported Freesync. So he is locked in due to his own lack off foresight, despite my recommendations to go Freesync at the time.
I am not remotely claiming AMD don't have issues but they are not as bad as Nvidia for the outright lying and marketing BS. The truth is when AMD mess up it is more due to incompetency than outright BS and lying. Other than when the muppet Raja was in charge of RTG (how does he keep getting work). The slightest thing results in AMD being labelled for life, Nvidia do much worse and people forget in a few months.
It's the GPU law and must be obeyed.
And:
- Bunpgate
- Fermi
- GTX970 VRAM lies
- Drivers that literally killed GPUs (I lost 2x GTX260s due to Nvidia drivers 196.75)
- Turing release with a massive price bump for pointless features that were (and still aren't) in any way mature enough.
- Excessive marketing lies (it just works, 2x performance etc)
- Locked down standards (G-Sync, PhysX)
- Crysis 2 hidden, invisible tessellation
- Battlefield 1942 missing textures
- F1 aliasing
- removed DX10.1 support in Assassin's Creed https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/t...-to-be-removed-from-assassins-creed.17874014/
- geforce partner program
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Ok, so it would be safe to assume that the full fat navi 21 will be aimed at the consumer market, as I don't see anything in between. That's sweet
What is num_rb_per_se though?
What is num_rb_per_se though?
Don't know, better info below. Probably not hbm though as I said.
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-navi-21-to-feature-80-cus-navi-22-40-cus-and-navi-23-32-cus
https://videocardz.com/newz/amd-navi-21-to-feature-80-cus-navi-22-40-cus-and-navi-23-32-cus
https://www.hardwaretimes.com/amd-b...essor-w-40-cus-and-192-bit-bus-navy-flounder/
Its different again
For the first time i think all of these now match up in their architecture...
This is the 20 Dual CU one. (2560 Shaders) (6700XT)
40 Dual CU (5120Shaders) 6900XT
The XBox Series X. 28 Dual CU (3328 Shaders) 6800XT
RB is render backends:
#Compute units = 80
#Shader engines = 4
#Compute units per shader = 10
#Shader per Shader engine = 2
#Render Backends per Shader engine = 4 or total of 16
#TCCS = 16
#GPRS = 1024
5120 cores
64 cores per compute unit
80 compute units
8 shaders, 16 render backends, 16 TCCS, 1024 GPRS
4 shader engines
https://wccftech.com/amd-confirms-radeon-rx-6000-graphics-card-volume/
As usual a site spinning comments to a stupid degree.
As usual a site spinning comments to a stupid degree.
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It's the Google Stadia of GPU launches for sure.
If AMD can't take advantage of this then they never will.
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