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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

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DDH said:
Golly gosh do I have some info for you today



Also, Navi 22 max clock 2.5ghz joizus. Heres hoping 80cu Navi 21 can hit close to that under water
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If these are right then it is 2.2Ghz at 238W, so pushing 300W will maybe get 2.5Ghz out of them. Obviously this is pure speculation and I am not basing it on anything.
 
But the ray-tracing performance is expected to be slightly ahead of Turing and way way below Ampere :(

Which would mean that Navi 3X and Navi 4X should be the proper, fixed cards.
 
4K8KW10 said:
But the ray-tracing performance is expected to be slightly ahead of Turing and way way below Ampere :(

Which would mean that Navi 3X and Navi 4X should be the proper, fixed cards.
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Hahaha, have you watched hardware unboxed vids looking at RT acceleration performance on ampere? I'll give you the TLDW, ampere has about 10% improvement in RT acceleration vs Turing. 10%

If rdna2 is only a little bit better than Turing than its the same as ampere
 
Aretak said:
Is that what the voices in your head are saying?
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DDH said:
Hahaha, have you watched hardware unboxed vids looking at RT acceleration performance on ampere? I'll give you the TLDW, ampere has about 10% improvement in RT acceleration vs Turing. 10%

If rdna2 is only a little bit better than Turing than its the same as ampere
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Are you trolling or what? The guy is Paul and video is just above your posts. Watch it.
 
LoadsaMoney said:
Ladies and gentlemen, my names Paul................

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Im watching the vid and has saying the same thing as old mate up there regarding ampere RT performance, that it's a lot faster than Turing. It's not. It only *appears* to be because the 3080 is faster than the 2080ti. The 3080 has the same performance impact when switching RT on as turing.

This leads me to believe Hi My Name's Paul is being fed golly gosh garbage
 
4K8KW10 said:
But the ray-tracing performance is expected to be slightly ahead of Turing and way way below Ampere :(

Which would mean that Navi 3X and Navi 4X should be the proper, fixed cards.
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"way way" below Ampere is Turing. Have you not seen any of the 3080 and 3090 reviews? Ampere's RT is still rubbish. Better than Turing but worse than Ampere isn't exactly a wide range to work with.

And "fixed" cards? Seriously, what is the damn matter with you and your relentless, childish, utter nonsense ***********? RDNA 2 isn't even out yet and you're already whinging and moaning that it's "broken" in some way?
 
One thing that worries me is going to be the price, if AMD top tier performance sits between 3080 ad 3090 thats a huge gap in price as well... If they are smart they will undersell the 3080 which will make the 3090 also irrelevant as there's not much difference in performance between it and the 3090.

Going off recent leaks and that annoying guy called Paul whose voice makes me want to punch him in the throat, if Navi 21 sits performance wise between 3080 and 3090 AMD need to release at £600 for Reference models, if they release at that price point i believe theyll clean up if the rasterization performance is there.

With regards to Ray Tracing, i couldn't give a monkeys as i dont think i even own a game with it lol.

I do think the cards can be potentially cheap as well as the 7nm node is extremely mature now, yields are reputedly very good.

Damn i think im in danger of buying a ticket to climb aboard the hype train
 
4K8KW10 said:
Are you trolling or what? The guy is Paul and video is just above your posts. Watch it.
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I just replied mention this vid.

I wouldn't try to troll you, I'd never come close to your skill level. But regardless go and look at the hardware unboxed vid. It's all there. Ampere RT is only slightly better than Turing.
 
humbug said:
Quake 2

3080 65 FPS
3090 75 FPS +15%

Is that anything we don't already know?
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The guys are trolling - they think there is small performance improvement between RTX 2080/RTX 2080 Ti and RTX 3080/RTX 3090 which is obviously not the case with up to 100 and higher % performance RTX uplift.
 
2080 vs 2080TI looks like 34 vs 44: +29%
2080 vs 3080 34 vs 65: +91%
2080 vs 3090 34 vs 75: +120%

With this being Digital Foundry, now on Nvidia's pay role, i'm sorry but they are.... you have to assume this is best case scenario.
 
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