ARCHIVE - *** NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 3080 SERIES STOCK SITUATION *** - NO COMPETITOR DISCUSSION

[PhatMonkey]

Lmao!

It really is a good psychological experiment, reading the ups and downs of this thread has been great. Yet I too still have an order with no idea whether I want to cancel or keep it, and no idea when it’ll come!

If you don’t laugh you’ll cry

Cancelled mine, well filled out the online form this morning when all this capacitor nonsense came to light then noticed a few MSI G X Trio owners posting problems on the official NVID forum which is the same card I ordered. Think I will wait now for the FE edition cards, might go for a 3090 and be done with it...

 

[ALXAndy]

People aren't installing 3rd party boost software, it's included with all nvidia cards. It's called GPU boost and created by nvidia, they'll likely just need to tweak it to be less aggressive.

Yeah I guess that will come in drivers. I figured they were installing like, some OC tool like AB (Gigabyte have one, Asus have one, EVGA have one etc) and then increasing the power limits and boost limits themselves. Didn't even realise you didn't have to bother tbh.

Cancelled mine, well filled out the online form this morning when all this capacitor nonsense came to light then noticed a few MSI G X Trio owners posting problems on the official NVID forum which is the same card I ordered. Think I will wait now for the FE edition cards, might go for a 3090 and be done with it...

To be completely fair here you shouldn't ever expect a good overclock. Ever. I have had some real stinkers in the past. A 670 that wouldn't even do 50mhz over stock and a Vega that wouldn't even boost 20. Fact is? both of them were as described on the box.

We knew the FE would be higher clocked than AIB. It was exactly the same on Turing. People just come to expect a certain figure though and then demand it. It doesn't work like that, unless you start buying cards, abusing DSR and basically binning them yourself. At which point? you are abusing something.

It seems Nvidia just made a mistake here, allowed all 3080s to boost artificially and some just can't clock that high for whatever reason (power stages or just a crap die?) and thus you take your chances etc.

That is exactly why I bought a Kingpin ! because I have had some real guffers in the past. However, I've never returned one I have just accepted the fact I didn't get lucky.

 

[ixwild]

Yeah I guess that will come in drivers. I figured they were installing like, some OC tool like AB (Gigabyte have one, Asus have one, EVGA have one etc) and then increasing the power limits and boost limits themselves. Didn't even realise you didn't have to bother tbh.

There probably is people doing that too to be fair. I think the way GPU boost works is if there is temperature headroom it just increases clocks but if I had to guess I'd say it's pulling too much for the cards that aren't top-spec to handle because there is temperature room. Not an expert just a guess.

 

[ALXAndy]

There probably is people doing that too to be fair. I think the way GPU boost works is if there is temperature headroom it just increases clocks but if I had to guess I'd say it's pulling too much for the cards that aren't top-spec to handle because there is temperature room. Not an expert just a guess.

Nvidia have kinda made a rod for their own back by "selling overclocking" TBH. People just come to expect it. Like "waah waah the reviewers are getting 2ghz and my card won't do that !" etc. I just think that is wrong. And I always have too, so I am not going to change my way of thinking just because I don't like Ampere.

 

[arrow0309]

Cancelled mine, well filled out the online form this morning when all this capacitor nonsense came to light then noticed a few MSI G X Trio owners posting problems on the official NVID forum which is the same card I ordered. Think I will wait now for the FE edition cards, might go for a 3090 and be done with it...

What was your confirmed order time?

 

[Lamy]

Cancelled mine, well filled out the online form this morning when all this capacitor nonsense came to light then noticed a few MSI G X Trio owners posting problems on the official NVID forum which is the same card I ordered. Think I will wait now for the FE edition cards, might go for a 3090 and be done with it...

I could never justify the 3090 when I’m only gaming. Waste of £6-700, that could be spent on something else entirely. I’m torn between hanging on to my TUF order (unofficial 1150 in the queue), hoping it’ll come for Cyberpunk. Cancelling closer to the time, buying an EVGA card of some sort and hoping there’ll be general availability within 90 days to step up. Or send myself loopy by trying to snag a 3080 FE.

None on them are that appealing at the minute.

 

[omaigadlol]

Nvidia have kinda made a rod for their own back by "selling overclocking" TBH. People just come to expect it. Like "waah waah the reviewers are getting 2ghz and my card won't do that !" etc. I just think that is wrong. And I always have too, so I am not going to change my way of thinking just because I don't like Ampere.

Stock.
Cards.
Crash.

 

[Zeed]

Bull Poo Poo.... U did not work with ASUS, what it translates to is, u had a problem on your mobo, u posted in the rog forum, admins posted custom bios to mitigate problems, u tested it like many others, I have been in the same boat. As for got a free motherboard for your effort that makes no sense, that is not how life works lol. U were trolling users earlier today calling them stupid for cancelling pre orders, you are flexing and threatening others, this is not the type of person I would work with, this is not the type of person a professional company would work with lol.
You now claim that the problems with the 3080 cards is software not hardware because 'YOU KNOW' (lol) when it has already been shown to be a hardware issue which even EVGA has gone on record to acknowledge. It may be mitigated via a driver update, but that is a plaster on a weeping wound, the problem will always be there, checkmate... lol

Well ofc I got stuff to back me up Honey

Thats a list of proper testers for Asus Ryzen botherboards.
So Joke's on You Maybe You would not work with Me but I'm the guy that gets send to sort **** out when no one can at my workplace. Cause I dont care about anyones feels or opinion i get stuff done.

 

[PhatMonkey]

I could never justify the 3090 when I’m only gaming. Waste of £6-700, that could be spent on something else entirely. I’m torn between hanging on to my TUF order (unofficial 1150 in the queue), hoping it’ll come for Cyberpunk. Cancelling closer to the time, buying an EVGA card of some sort and hoping there’ll be general availability within 90 days to step up. Or send myself loopy by trying to snag a 3080 FE.

None on them are that appealing at the minute.

I agree, but I also do lots of rendering / video editing, but that would not be my main reason though, I tend to update my PC every 2 years, that time is now here, I may as well future proof, then in the the new year the new mobos / intel cpu's will be out and that will be me sorted then.

 

[HoldinSomeVoltin]

Gibbo has to gauge his retail price off less than accurate stock/supply forecasts while balancing the pricing/availability he may get 2 weeks-months down the line when those cards for those pre-orders come into stock.

He has to allow for 1.5% volatility in £ value without any big shocks (HELLO BREXIT) to the market. In any case the market exists for a reason - the market (you guys, our customers) are welcome to buy the product from another reseller if they think their price/availability/service, etc. is better.

As enthusiasts ourselves we try to play this game for the betterment of our customers and ourselves. We know what this game is like having played it ourselves, both sides of the checkout.

To be perfectly honest, we don't care overly if Overclockers make more or less profit than another reseller, as long as we make enough to keep OCUK going, pay our colleagues, continue to do what we do, and keep customers are happy.

Supplying the PC gamer/enthusiast market with the best hardware, service and support is what keeps us up at night.

We are always looking to engage and listen with our customers, YOU GUYS! If you want us to do anything better then let us know here or via webnotes. We are always watching and listening!

Spoiler: Well Chris T from Customer Services is always watching...

We'll always try and meet your expectations and if not let you know why we can't, unlike some faceless corporations out there.

I've answered a few hundred webnotes since last week from customers about their 3080 orders (and I don't even look after graphics cards!). Each time I've not just done the minimum possible but tried to explain our actions and do what I can to make people happy.

If you reach out to us whether in sales, RMA, purchasing, via webnotes, or here on the forums we will always try and get back to you!

I can't believe that every time someone comes up with a VERY REASNABLE request for some information on 3080's order clarity and orders queue, they get ridiculous replies from OCUK fanboys (or maybe staff with second accounts?), saying nonsense like: "What do you expect from them, they are working so hard and the queue software is so super complex and they can't waste their time with communication to their IT department as it would just be taking their valuable time on our pleb questions and requests.

OCUK are not your mate trying to get you a card on a quiet from Currys with 10% staff discount, they are a multimillion company, one of, if not the biggest computer companies in the UK, they are not doing any costumer support or update of note at all on those issues and we have every right to ask them to do better, please stop bashing people that are asking on OUR behalf.

I'm not an OCUK fanboy, but I think the reality of the situation needs to be brought forward about this queue system. I'm a developer, with lots of web experience, too. Some things which people need to understand is that the 'unofficial queue' tracker is a basic python script uploaded onto a website running a virtual terminal. No one is liable when uploading data. However, OCUK are when developing their own system. The first matter: How complex is the order system? Seeing as the database is MySQL, what SQL queries are needed to first order customers, per card, per ETA, take away cancellations on updates, joining tables etc. You see? It's gets pretty complex, especially when security is paramount.

If OCUK released this queue system that started spitting out users full names, addresses and payment information due to that users relationship with the order number, then I'm sure people would be pretty angry. There is a reason people kept putting in their order numbers into the unofficial tracker without the last xx at the end, and that is privacy. OCUK do not want your details being leaked, breaching confidentiality which brings in the data protection act not to mention the ICO breathing down their ass for lack of planning and proper security implementation. Slapping some code together is the easy part. The hard part is IT governance and following internal and external policies for the safety of everyone's information.

However, why they didn't just mention something similar to this, I've no idea. My only speculation could be that they aren't doing any of that, and could be going old fashioned printing out a bunch of orders and firing them into MS Excel and simply using functions to calculate the first come first serve. Or, I'm completely wrong, and they're just really busy and don't have the time to explain it to marketing and CS. Every company has their own way of doing things, and my theory could be way off. I do think communication could be better from them, though. I think that is where people seem to be getting most angry. Sometimes Marketing/PR or even legal will stay quiet, since it's sometimes seen as the best option during botched launches like this where you might just keep digging yourself deeper.

 

[PhatMonkey]

Well ofc I got stuff to back me up Honey

Thats a list of proper testers for Asus Ryzen botherboards.
So Joke;s on You Maybe You would not work with Me but I;m the guy that gets send to sort **** out when no one can at my workplace.

Just like I said, it all happened in the forum lol, u just proved my point lol. You DID NOT WORK FOR ASUS, you claimed to work on the BIOS for funk sake hahhahahaha. So your proof is based on several users contributing to FEED BACK on a mobo and so the forum starter has given away a motherboard to the top 10 or whatever. THAT DOES NOT translate to WORKING FOR ASUS or WORKING ON THE BIOS for ASUS, geez man... give it a rest... lol

 

[lordbeerus]

Saw the capacitor issues on several cards and how they have cheaped out.. Any particular post/video/threads with issues in MSI Ventus 3080? Thanks.

 

[Zeed]

Just like I said, it all happened in the forum lol, u just proved my point lol. You DID NOT WORK FOR ASUS, you claimed to work on the BIOS for funk sake hahhahahaha. So your proof is based on several users contributing to FEED BACK on a mobo and so the forum starter has given away a motherboard to the top 10 or whatever. THAT DOES NOT translate to WORKING FOR ASUS or WORKING ON THE BIOS for ASUS, geez man... give it a rest... lol

I said I worked WITH not FOR with acces to internal bios test files. Almost fried scpu on one. So You are from the "cant understand what I'm reading " crowd good to know

 

[PhatMonkey]

Saw the capacitor issues on several cards and how they have cheaped out.. Any particular post/video/threads with issues in MSI Ventus 3080? Thanks.

Hi I posted a few posts ago some MSI users are posting on the NVIDIA official forum, best go check there mate, but the several I saw were the G X TRIO version not Ventus (at the time)

 

[lordbeerus]

As we are on the 400th page, fury has enraged.. stock queues not being handled, failed cards, crashes, bios update, capacitors cheaped out.. can't life be easy?

 

[Zeed]

As we are on the 400th page, fury has enraged.. stock queues not being handled, failed cards, crashes, bios update, capacitors cheaped out.. can't life be easy?

It's easy man could be worse. You could be dying due to lack of water in Africa. Thats where people got proper problems. It's all exploding cause people dont have anything to do cause of Corvid man.

 

[lordbeerus]

It's easy man could be worse. You could be dying due to lack of water in Africa. Thats where people got proper problems. It's all exploding cause people dont have anything to do cause of Corvid man.

Well said.. its a typical first world problem..

 

[lordbeerus]

Hi I posted a few posts ago some MSI users are posting on the NVIDIA official forum, best go check there mate, but the several I saw were the G X TRIO version not Ventus (at the time)

Thanks Phatmonkey..Guys, do you know any local retailers in London we can ask about stock situations? Might give some indication on the production volumes

 

[Zeed]

Saw the capacitor issues on several cards and how they have cheaped out.. Any particular post/video/threads with issues in MSI Ventus 3080? Thanks.

I posted they using 470 same as Gigabyte they "should" be better quality than 330's and 220's but that requires also check of VRM's quality how much extra filtering is needed. Also MSI got 5+1 configuration as You see

Worry not. I'm about to start digging in to parts catalogues to check differences between types used by different brands.

 

[lordbeerus]

I posted they using 470 same as Gigabyte they "should" be better quality than 330's and 220's but that requires also check of VRM's quality how much extra filtering is needed.

Sorry i am a younger (less knowledegable) enthusiast, whats the difference in 470, 330 and 220's.. i understand that there are two types of capacitors for filtering the power.. and Nvidia reference suggests 4:2 ratio for them.. one of them is a smaller which is what companies have cheaped out (or maybe lack of chips from nvidia forced this)