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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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So when is anything becoming out by AMD? ... Wondering if to buy something now or wait
you'll need to wait until the 28th, I doubt we'll get anything concrete before then.
Since 3080's are weeks and weeks aaway anyway, I say no harm in waiting!
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I just hope we have something that has some compute left in it
Otherwise I might be sticking to my 7 for a while. Mind you I could run the 7 and one of these. Perhaps put the 7 in the wifes r5 3600 machine and stick the new card in with my threadripper. I dunno i'm not entirely sold on a new gpu upgrade just yet as I am still running 1st gen TR and really my only upgrade path is probably 3rd gen TR. Then again all I have been playing are valorant, csgo and really that's about it on the desktop and both of them run maxed out at about a billion fps, perhaps ill play cyberpunk when that comes out as well but im sure a 7 will play that just fine. I've been playing more on my 4700u 13" laptop with an xbox pad plugged in tbh. 50fps with medium settings on Saints Row the third @1080p does the job. I think what i'm saying is I really don't care like I used to and wait far longer to upgrade these days. I moved from a 1090T to threadripper on the day TR launched back in 2017 and still nothing in my everyday workload makes me want to upgrade it or the 7. If this thing ends up being beastly ill probably end up buying it though.I just hope we have something that has some compute left in it
The VII is a compute monster, i doubt it, its already been ripped out of RDNA1, the whole point of RDNA1/2 its to make them smaller and more power efficient, gaming focused, for that all the compute has to go....
The VII is a compute monster, i doubt it, its already been ripped out of RDNA1, the whole point of RDNA1/2 its to make them smaller and more power efficient, gaming focused, for that all the compute has to go....
You see what they are doing is making me look at having two cards an rdna card and a cdna card to handle compute
So two power hungry GPUs rather than just the one. My board would be happy to see more cards again I am sure. It used to have a 7, a vega 56 and two rx 570's all chugging away in it whereas now it's only got the 7.
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Hey, thanks.. are people hoping for AMD card to beat 3090?
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when the benchmark leaks are expected to start?
We get an announcement at the end of the month mate. They could announce a release in November, December, January, who knows. Review's won't go live until release day, so months away most likely.
AMD are contractually obligated to make millions of relatively large APU's for the PS5/Xbox, from the limited amount of pre-orders it seems TSMC can't manage to fulfil all these yet. Add Zen3 eating 7nm wafers too that, and I don't see how they have much left over for big Navi. We'll see though!
Personally I don't really need a 3090 killer - ideally somethign around the 3080 performance and ideally cheaper. That performance would be a huge step up from my vega
Had an email from Game, as i tried to pre order an xbox series X, they state they will have more consoles available 22nd of October in time for tje release in November, so im guessing consoles at least are getting made
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144Hz solid at 1440p would be fantastic. I may upgrade to a 4k monitor if I feel the performance is there though. We will see.
There will be enough 7nm wafers to go round, the Huawei 7nm orders that were cancelled back in March/April were bought up by AMD, the time it takes for that production to be halted, changed, retaped and whatnot for AMD's needs, to then start producing dies and packaged into products takes us to about November. More current 7nm customers of TSMC are moving to 5nm, i.e Apple, freeing up more space on 7nm for AMD's orders.
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No one really knows were the performance will be as there have been very little leaks
I'm hoping for it to be on the rough level of a 3080, which should be enough to drive 4K 60 fps comfortably, and that should be well over twice the Vega 64 performance so a good boost.
Importantly, it'll have 16GB VRAM, a clear selling point over the 3080. All depends on price/performance and most importantly, drivers.
Sure you can have different processes, but, it's still from the same 25% production capacity and that 25% would have been booked ages ago. So it doesn't really matter which process a part is using, the supply of RDNA 2 GPUs will depend on what way AMD have split up production between CPU, GPU and Consoles. I would say most of that production will be split between CPU and Consoles, with desktop GPUs lower down on the priority list. It just makes sense from a business point of view.
They couldn't have known that Nvidia would have messed up the Ampere launch and it's probably too late to change production runs now with TSMC.
So, where do I stand on this? If I had to make prediction, then I would say that it won't be much different than the Nvidia launch with regards to stock levels. There will be a small stock of cards at launch that will quickly sell out because demand for new cards at moment seems to be at an all time high. Combine that with how bad the Ampere launch went with regards to stock, driver issues etc the demand for AMD's cards will be even higher.
Not sure how the supply issues can be avoided to be honest. AMD have had trouble with stock for most of their GPU launches and those were without the added demand of a new range of CPUs and two console launches competing for production time.
Of course, RDNA 2 demand will depend on how good the RDNA 2 cards actually are.
And all my stock level speculation is based on AMD putting CPU and Consoles first, they might do the complete opposite!!
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