AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year

[Martini1991]

Oh come off it, it's 2 months and simply by virtue of the two companies are on different release schedules. What happens if the 3070 matches the 6700XT when it comes out the day after? Performance parity at a later date doesn't get you excited from what you said.

Now if AMD can't beat the 2080 Ti then you have reason to grumble because AMD can't even get performance parity with a 2-year old card.

Are we assuming the 6700XT is AMD's top tier part?
Then you'd be right, parity with Nvidia's second fiddle card wouldn't get me excited

 

[Kashinoda]

So videocardz went from:



To:


They don't have a clue and they are banking on the clicks.
Pathetic!!!

One is VideoCardz (WhyCry) and the other is someone replying to VideoCardz

 

[EastCoastHandle]

One is VideoCardz (WhyCry) and the other is someone replying to VideoCardz

Ah, I see, thanks. I thought both were from VideoCardz...carry on...

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So, if this is on the PS5 then what's being used for PC??? I'm not sure what corteks provided is from the 6000 series but from the PS5.

 

[gpuerrilla]

In the words of the Nvidia fan army, power draw doesn't matter as long as it's the highest performing card available.

So if Big Navi is a 400W monster with > 3090 performance, power draw won't matter to them. If it's a 350W card, with less than 3090 performance, then it will be forever known as a power hungry, hot loud card, and have Gregster, Loadsamoney, DP and the other gang members start throwing out the 290x blower meme's etc.

PMSL. The usual suspects!!

 

[EastCoastHandle]

In the words of the Nvidia fan army, power draw doesn't matter as long as it's the highest performing card available.

So if Big Navi is a 400W monster with > 3090 performance, power draw won't matter to them. If it's a 350W card, with less than 3090 performance, then it will be forever known as a power hungry, hot loud card, and have Gregster, Loadsamoney, DP and the other gang members start throwing out the 290x blower meme's etc.

No worries, looks like 3000 series is an actual paper launch based on reports (if true)


Let's hope that Radeon RDNA 2 is a full Apple/Samsung phone-like release

 

[LePhuronn]

Are we assuming the 6700XT is AMD's top tier part?

Only if you want to poke the bear

 

[4K8KW10]

"512GB/s" i do believe that is 16GB/s GDDR6 over a 256Bit Bus.

Yup, this is the memory throughput which will be so relatively low due to the use of innovative cache structure which will offload the pressure off communication between the GPU and its VRAM.

There are articles explaining the benefit - it's simply that the shaders much more often "speak to" their neighbouring L-caches rather than to the far more distant and "slow" VRAM.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Are we assuming the 6700XT is AMD's top tier part?
Then you'd be right, parity with Nvidia's second fiddle card wouldn't get me excited

6700XT this time pal? Or you pushing the boat out for the 6800?

 

[Raelgun]

What are you currently on, I take it not AMD? You should give the existing features a look, RIS , chill and anti-lag. Not sure what new stuff is coming, Im sure it will be shared on 28th.

I do run AMD, and thats what I mean, AMD introduced a lot of stuff over time for games to enhance the visuals or performance in some way/efficiency.

We tend to see at least 1 big feature per card at a driver level and sometimes we get leaks on those.

 

[Martini1991]

6700XT this time pal? Or you pushing the boat out for the 6800?

The best card £500 can get me if I buy.

 

[gpuerrilla]

The best card £500 can get me if I buy.

Another 5700XT?

 

[LoadsaMoney]

In the words of the Nvidia fan army, power draw doesn't matter as long as it's the highest performing card available.

So if Big Navi is a 400W monster with > 3090 performance, power draw won't matter to them. If it's a 350W card, with less than 3090 performance, then it will be forever known as a power hungry, hot loud card, and have Gregster, Loadsamoney, DP and the other gang members start throwing out the 290x blower meme's etc.

PMSL. The usual suspects!!

 

[Nablaoperator]

That guy looks like an insider. He leaked the TU102 dieshots.. I was lurking a bit on ChipHell forums, he publishes these estimates on a regular basis.. I was analysing a similar post made by him before August regarding Ampere. Would appreciate if someone conversant with Chinese language could help filter this out.

Btw, that chart portrays "RTX off" scenario and the top most navi SKU is speculated to hit 340w.

Here's a summary from the same guy... dont know what to believe anymore... lets keep a moderate base line

Those series names can be changed to signal performance parity.

 

[gpuerrilla]

Those series names can be changed to signal performance parity.

The 6900XT is known as the humbug edition.

 

[Raelgun]

Here's a summary from the same guy... dont know what to believe anymore... lets keep a moderate base line

Those series names can be changed to signal performance parity.

That position placement of the 6800XT if the price is right is on point, I will not get a 300 plus watt GPU, I have over time come down from that whilst gaining performance.

But a smaller memory interface also means its cheaper to produce, isn't larger bus width cards quite expensive cos its hard to produce them?

 

[Grim5]

Here's a summary from the same guy... dont know what to believe anymore... lets keep a moderate base line

Those series names can be changed to signal performance parity.

Of true AMD has been pushing TDP hard to get those clock speeds up

where are all the fans who've been shouting about 2.5ghz and 250w... oh so it's actually 2.2ghz and 340w - looks like AMD got worried along the way and put the extra budget into pushing clocks way above peak efficiency so now they conpete with Nvidia. I wonder how AMDs cooler will handle 340w compare to Nvidias that runs at 68c, that will be quite interesting

 

[gpuerrilla]

Of true AMD has been pushing TDP hard to get those clock speeds up

where are all the fans who've been shouting about 2.5ghz and 250w... oh so it's actually 2.2ghz and 340w - looks like AMD got worried along the way and put the extra budget into pushing clocks way above peak efficiency so now they conpete with Nvidia. I wonder how AMDs cooler will handle 340w compare to Nvidias that runs at 68c, that will be quite interesting

Sound like your worried chap?

 

[Nablaoperator]

Of true AMD has been pushing TDP hard to get those clock speeds up

where are all the fans who've been shouting about 2.5ghz and 250w... oh so it's actually 2.2ghz and 340w - looks like AMD got worried along the way and put the extra budget into pushing clocks way above peak efficiency so now they conpete with Nvidia. I wonder how AMDs cooler will handle 340w compare to Nvidias that runs at 68c, that will be quite interesting

Are you sirius?

We are still trying to figure out simpler questions like how those 5120 SPs are expected to compete with Nvidia's 10k CUDA cores

 

[4K8KW10]

Are you sirius?

We are still trying to figure out simpler questions like how those 5120 SPs are expected to compete with Nvidia's 10k CUDA cores

The Nvidia's 10K CUDA cores are actually half

 

[Raelgun]

Are you sirius?

We are still trying to figure out simpler questions like how those 5120 SPs are expected to compete with Nvidia's 10k CUDA cores

Haven't the Cuda count in nvidia cards always been higher then AMDs relative SPs?

AMD did have a SP limit before, and RDNA was a way to get past that which looks like they have, has there been any news that 5120 SP being the new limit now? something tells me it isn't as doesn't make sense to design a new chip and hitting a new limit so quickly.