No, it pretty clearly says both were locked to 4GHz to me.Hold the **** up. Am I reading this right? From the validation:
They artifically limited the 3800XT to 4Ghz and let the 5800x run at whatever boost it wanted. Doesn't this mean then the 19% IPC increase is actually much lower? wtf?
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AMD Zen 3 (5000 Series), rumored 17% IPC gain.
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What do you use your PC for? Gaming or do you use it for multi thread intensive applications?
I plan out waiting for people to sell them on members market in about 2 or so years and pick them up then as at 4K my 3600 rips through everything. I may even get a 8/12 core zen 3 first when they go cheap on member’s market then upgrade to a 16 core later
I see the people I pinged did not reply. Humble pie
Both. I use it for gaming and working from home with a few different VMS running and also will be streaming. Currently have a 1080 GPU but trying to pick up a 3080
OK, thanks for your input all. I shall hold off a while longerI am just impatient to play SWS VR!
if it’s any consolation it seems squadrons is probably at least a couple of patches away from true greatness... you’ll probably have a much better experience all round a month from now!
until then there’s lots of fun stuff on the quest to keep you busy!
So, after watching the presentation, I have the dilemma....
Looking to upgrade 4790K. Was lucky and bought 3080 in the lottery. MOSTLY gaming and entertainment @1440p
Give me ONE (or two
) good reason why should I get 3600X (or wait for 5600X) over i5 10600K@5GHz??? In gaming it gets close to i9.
If 5900X is going to be faster than i9 (realistically speaking probably 5-7% @1440p), then 5600X is PROBABLY not going to touch overclocked 10600K, which you can get for 250 pounds? 5900X is probably gonna be 550 pounds, Z490 vs X570 prices are similar.
So the way I see it, 10600K@5GHz seems like a best choice in my case?
Looking to upgrade 4790K. Was lucky and bought 3080 in the lottery. MOSTLY gaming and entertainment @1440p
Give me ONE (or two
) good reason why should I get 3600X (or wait for 5600X) over i5 10600K@5GHz??? In gaming it gets close to i9.If 5900X is going to be faster than i9 (realistically speaking probably 5-7% @1440p), then 5600X is PROBABLY not going to touch overclocked 10600K, which you can get for 250 pounds? 5900X is probably gonna be 550 pounds, Z490 vs X570 prices are similar.
So the way I see it, 10600K@5GHz seems like a best choice in my case?
So, after watching the presentation, I have the dilemma....
Looking to upgrade 4790K. Was lucky and bought 3080 in the lottery. MOSTLY gaming and entertainment @1440p
Give me ONE (or two
If 5900X is going to be faster than i9 (realistically speaking probably 5-7% @1440p), then 5600X is PROBABLY not going to touch overclocked 10600K, which you can get for 250 pounds? 5900X is probably gonna be 550 pounds, Z490 vs X570 prices are similar.
So the way I see it, 10600K@5GHz seems like a best choice in my case?
Wouldnt you need a new motherboard ? also intel boards arent pci4 are they? surely youd want the latest tech.
Several reasons actually
* Clocks were held back to stick to 105w TDP, when Intel is happy to push past that (AMD could have squeezed a bit more out of it)
* Memory controller: Still on 12nm with same architecture - improvements to memory kept to minimum with minor CCX changes
* Core counts: AMD has previously admitted it can easily offer desktop users more cores on Ryzen, but today chose not to.
* 4x SMT: We know that AMD has 4x SMT in the works, but chose not to implement it for Zen 3.
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50 now, 50 with the next launch and so on, nVIDIA way.
Too early to say 5600x is not gonna be equally good. The CCX design of a 6core and 12 core should be identical. The 5900x boosts higher on stock setting and enjoys slightly larger cache. The former will likely to be negated when the CPU is overclocked. And the latter is unlikely to affect that many games.So, after watching the presentation, I have the dilemma....
Looking to upgrade 4790K. Was lucky and bought 3080 in the lottery. MOSTLY gaming and entertainment @1440p
Give me ONE (or two
If 5900X is going to be faster than i9 (realistically speaking probably 5-7% @1440p), then 5600X is PROBABLY not going to touch overclocked 10600K, which you can get for 250 pounds? 5900X is probably gonna be 550 pounds, Z490 vs X570 prices are similar.
So the way I see it, 10600K@5GHz seems like a best choice in my case?
wait for the reviews to come out and see a) how well the 5600x can clock and b) how it does in games.
I suspect it will surpass i5 and therefore for the same money you are better off with 5600x and save some money on motherboards.
Also it is listing price, when sales season starts you will get discounts or additional items so that will make the ryzen much more attractive especially if they beat intel on games.
Well yes, of course. That's why I said that the prices of z490 vs x570 are similar. I know, I know - B550. But I bet that if I would start the research into B550, I would end up with something that is not much cheaper than x570. So for me the motherboard price is not a relevant argument
PCIe 4.0? Yes, but I also said give me a GOOD reason, not artificial one
PCIe 4.0 seems like a bit of novelty at the moment and it's not gonna make 3600x faster than 10600K in games?I don't think that's probable at all. A 10900K is already an overclocked 10600K and then some, and there's been very little difference for gaming between Ryzen SKUs so far. If anything, the single-CCD chip might even perform a little better. I'd expect it to be slightly faster than an overclocked 10600K. There's also literally zero reason to even consider X570 over B550 (or even B450 unless you want a PCIe 4.0 SSD, which you can't have with Intel), whereas you have to buy Z490 for Intel. That's not to say the 10600K is a bad option (I have one), but it's certainly not as cut and dried as you make it sound.
Yup!!
After going 4790k > 3600 > 5900x, I think that'll be me done for another number of years.
I loved the tease on the GPU though, that thing looks awesome!!
In what?
Well yes, of course. That's why I said that the prices of z490 vs x570 are similar. I know, I know - B550. But I bet that if I would start the research into B550, I would end up with something that is not much cheaper than x570. So for me the motherboard price is not a relevant argument
PCIe 4.0? Yes, but I also said give me a GOOD reason, not artificial one
to be honest reading your posts you sound like he’ll bend on buying intel regardless what AMD can do. You might as go for it. No point in asking for opinions of your mind is dead set.
looking at the 5900x single core performance and the bench marks, the 5600x for sure will beat 10600k in every respect.
So, after watching the presentation, I have the dilemma....
Looking to upgrade 4790K. Was lucky and bought 3080 in the lottery. MOSTLY gaming and entertainment @1440p
Give me ONE (or two
If 5900X is going to be faster than i9 (realistically speaking probably 5-7% @1440p), then 5600X is PROBABLY not going to touch overclocked 10600K, which you can get for 250 pounds? 5900X is probably gonna be 550 pounds, Z490 vs X570 prices are similar.
So the way I see it, 10600K@5GHz seems like a best choice in my case?
Depends entirely on your budget, whether or not you use the system for much else, other than gaming, and if PCIE 4 is desirable?
Seems like you're pretty happy with, and set on, the Intel platform though. The fact you plumped for a 3080 means you won't wait, at least not for an AMD product, so crack on with the I5.
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