Do you consider the R9 290X a limited edition card? That was $549
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AMD Navi 23 ‘NVIDIA Killer’ GPU Rumored to Support Hardware Ray Tracing, Coming Next Year
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Do you consider the R9 290X a limited edition card? That was $549
So 2 exceptions right there. Plus, the Radeon VII wasn't a "limited edition". It was a full release card. Don't confuse a short shelf life with "limited edition", especially as the Radeon VII also had a limited edition in its own right...although why the Gold Edition was red I'll never know.
You aswer you own stuff in nearly every post amd haven’t really done a 500£ gpu as they haven’t competed with nvidia for quite a while at the high end. Amd gpu for last few generations have all been mid range at best. Rx 480 and rerelease 580 590 all midrange. Vega 64 and 56 upper mid range and 5700xt vs 2060-2070 again upper mid range.
they have released the radion 7 at 2080 money and that was a full release. Going back to amd last great top end gpu the 290 that was certainly priced above 500£ amd haven’t put out a high priced card because they haven’t had one till now. I’m really hoping the big navi makes a big splash
and I’m certain amd will price it well but not at bargain prices either a little cheaper then nvidia but not by much
Okay, I was wrong about that, there were two single GPU graphics cards released 6-8 years ago, which had prices of 550 dollars, so sorry about that.
These GPUs had 384-512 bit memory bus widths, so that wouldve increased the production cost. Id be surprised if the Big Navi GPU shown has anything higher than a 320 bit bus width, as this is what the Series X GPU uses.
The Radeon VII was intended to show the best perf. achievable on 7nm at the time, and was not profitable enough to produce in large quantities (apparently, costing 650 dollars to produce, with an RRP of 700 dollars!). Ultimately, it was replaced by the similarly performing 5700 XT.
I'll concede that AMD could definitely charge 550 dollars for the Big Navi GPU, shown on 8th Oct.
Taking 13.1 % inflation of the dollar into account, since 2012, the equivalent in dollars is 622.6 dollars. Perhaps the price would be rounded down to an even 600 dollars?
These GPUs had 384-512 bit memory bus widths, so that wouldve increased the production cost. Id be surprised if the Big Navi GPU shown has anything higher than a 320 bit bus width, as this is what the Series X GPU uses.
The Radeon VII was intended to show the best perf. achievable on 7nm at the time, and was not profitable enough to produce in large quantities (apparently, costing 650 dollars to produce, with an RRP of 700 dollars!). Ultimately, it was replaced by the similarly performing 5700 XT.
I'll concede that AMD could definitely charge 550 dollars for the Big Navi GPU, shown on 8th Oct.
Taking 13.1 % inflation of the dollar into account, since 2012, the equivalent in dollars is 622.6 dollars. Perhaps the price would be rounded down to an even 600 dollars?
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I'm beginning to believe we got bots posting in this thread.
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With the apparent lack of humour in some of your posts, Id have to agree
Also Fury and Fury X. Nano too.
Also Fury and Fury X. Nano too.
Oh goddamnit... Good point. I guess I've been out of the GPU market for a long time, mostly due to rising prices.
And the R9 FURY X and Nano cost $649! I bet not many brought one of those GPUs. The R9 Fury GPUs used HBM, which tbf, hasen't really seen a great deal of success yet, due to it's high production cost.
The RX 6000 series is thought to use GDDR6, rather than HBM (We still don't know for sure), so I'll stick with the estimate of ~600 dollars.
If that's a GPU at higher clocks than the Big Navi GPU we saw recently, I'd expect to pay an extra $50-100 for it (based on the increase in price for the RX 5700 XT Anniversary Edition vs 5700 XT)
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I just found out that the RTX 3080 Founders edition GPUs brought in the US has an RRP of $699.99 dollars, which is tax free if brought from Nvidia's online store. That's equivalent to £537. Easy to see why they are selling out sold out so quickly.
Question - If I went on Holiday to the US (if there's a Covid-19 Vaccine, was planning a trip anyway sometime next year), am I allowed to take items like graphics cards back to the UK, brought while I was there?
EDIT - the US customs rule is apparently "You are allowed to take home $800 worth of items per person duty-free in your luggage, once every 30 days"
Link here: https://www.ricksteves.com/travel-tips/packing-light/clearing-customs
Question - If I went on Holiday to the US (if there's a Covid-19 Vaccine, was planning a trip anyway sometime next year), am I allowed to take items like graphics cards back to the UK, brought while I was there?
EDIT - the US customs rule is apparently "You are allowed to take home $800 worth of items per person duty-free in your luggage, once every 30 days"
Link here: https://www.ricksteves.com/travel-tips/packing-light/clearing-customs
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dont forget there is normally sales tax in the usa in most states though
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10 gigarays per second is like the best case peak..meaning data need not be fetched
80 boxes is the worst case peak.. full traversal for determination
On digging further it seems nvidia has estimated the gigaray throughput on a standard scene with constant sampling, which means 10 gigarays corresponds to expected and not worst case peak.
More like 45 boxes per ray (4.5 x 10) .. assuming uniform distribution.
Further the RTX 3080 ray-triangles logic is twice as expensive as the ray-box, for navi it's 4x.
Here are the scenarios:
RTX 3080
450 giga ray-box intersections per sec
225 giga ray-tri intersections per sec
Top Navi
280 giga ray-box intersections per sec
70 giga ray-tri intersections per sec
38% slower RT at least
Pricing seems to be the key here.
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They will have to have some implementation of that as the consoles having all AMD hardware state they can do this. It may not be the same RT technique as nvidia use (brute force) but it looks OK on paper, we just need to see what impact it has while running regular rasterisation.
Also Fury and Fury X. Nano too.
Pretty sure the X800XT back in the early 2000's was $500 too...
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Don't know about dollars but I paid around £300 for one
That is almost £500 in todays money (£451 to be exact).
Yeah thats in line with what I thought. At best it will have around two thirds of the RT performance but thats still better than the 2080ti. and if it delivers on none RT grunt and priced right then I will buy.
I can move over to a future card once both sides have RT cards which can deliver 60+ fps on 4k with all the graphics settings turned up to max (the useful ones of course not silly ones like the grass which crippled every framerate)
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Yeah but apart from nano, Fury x, Fury, Radeon 7, x800t, vega64 liquid and a plethora of dual gpu cards when has AMD/ATI ever charged more than 500$ ....
Never I say...
But if they can get their 5nm production moving. It will be alright on the night .
Never I say...
But if they can get their 5nm production moving. It will be alright on the night .
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