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What influence do they have now?
Can't afford school meals for kids, but billions for homebuyers, sure!
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What influence do they have now?
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You really think parents not being responsible with money is the 'root cause'?
How would punishing the parents deal with the root cause of children going hungry?
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Why have you asked me the question back? Is there a word in particular that you're struggling to understand?
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Starve a kid, save a quid.
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I'm not struggling maybe you are.
They have no influence in either situation.
So are you suggesting we give the money to the kids for them to control and spend?
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The money is there to feed them, if parents aren't using that money to feed their kids then whose fault is it ? Or is that £40billion in benefits specifically related to having children just non existent ?
How about we punish the parents with child abuse if they're letting their kids starve and remove the kids from a clearly toxic environment ?
No, it's much better to just give the kids food, bailing out the toxic parents and letting the status quo of irresponsible people carry on being irresponsible with no repercussions amiright
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The disenfranchised children of today become the “blank blank blank” of tomorrow.
I’ll let you fill in the blanks
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Ok, so you are struggling. I'll try my best, but I'm not convinced you'll get it.
The child has no influence. No choice. No means to earn money. They are dependants. They cannot feed themselves, they require to be fed.
If you provide a benefit payment, then the recipient can spend it on anything. If you provide a meal in school, then only the child can eat that.
Could you articulate your actual problem with this?
Hilarious that you think punishing the parents by removing the children is good for child/parent/society as a whole , just bilge!
How do you judge who are "**** ups", what scale or you going to use, who adjudicates this inhuman punishment of not being financially successful, they might be wonderful parent, I don't think everybody who is financial successful are good parents
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I'm not arguing about school meals but irresponsible and non contributing parents to being given hand outs just to keep the cycle perpetuating.
Kids already get meals in school and I have no issues with that.
I have issues with a system that sustains generations of people who have zero plans to progress off the state.
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Because a parent who lets their kid starve is an ideal model of a parent
LOL, what makes a model parent, with a statement like that I can't imagine you have children!
I'm a parent, I make it up as I go along, sometimes a get it right and sometimes wrong. I'm sure like 99% of parents I would do anything to stop them going hungry but right here/right now is not the time you win that fight.
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Then read the thread title, and don't let the door hit you on the **** on the way out.
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A responsible adult who provides shelter, food and education to the best of their abilities.
If that parent isn’t able to do that your solution is to remove that child into care and the cost associated with looking after that child until the age of 18. They might be a wonderful parent but just not financially successful.
So would you advocate forced contraception until somebody wanting children had enough money to reach that point to be allowed to have children?
Maybe we could bring back the Poor Houses, that with a hint or Orwellian and a lashing of draconian makes it all sound very appetising!
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I am happy for children to be fed but make the parents work for it. There are plenty of things that can be done in the community. Picking up litter, street cleaning etc.
It is a tough situation but just handing out more welfare doesn't solve the root cause at all.
It is a tough situation but just handing out more welfare doesn't solve the root cause at all.
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On what evidence do you base that bizarre analysis?
I do wonder about their parents ability to have produced well rounded, compassionate human beings. Just goes to show that having money might not be the best yardstick for bringing up nice children!
Some of the views stated in this thread are nothing short of horrific, I do think some post views like this to add to a “notoriety” factor. They think it makes them “special/different”, unfortunately to the adults in the thread it just makes them look immature.
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Why not make the parents do the dishes, is that not the gold standard humiliation tactic when you find you've had to feed people who don't have the means to feed themselves?
After all, this isn't about feeding children is it? It's about punishing adults for failing at life. Because every one of those parents is a hopeless, jobless junkie who never lifted a finger in their miserable life.
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