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Ironically, the less capable in here would like to see an American style health system that leads to increased drug addiction and hence more of the issues they hate.
 
LOAM said:
I'm not 100% sure of the point your trying to make or indeed if you understood the point I was making in my original reply by from your own link it says "in the UK health care is universal whereas 28 million Americans are without healthcare cover".

The fact is, in an insurance based healthcare system which is what the person I replied to was advocating, many people can't afford it.
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There is correlation "Up to 1 in 4 American families delay or put off seeking medical attention because they can't afford it."

I know you've linked to a poll but perhaps the majority of people who voted are mistaken.

In proportion to GDP, the US spends more on free healthcare than we do and at the same time have a massively more used private healthcare system than we so. What does this tell us?
 
fatbatman said:
In proportion to GDP, the US spends more on free healthcare than we do and at the same time have a massively more used private healthcare system than we so. What does this tell us?
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That their system is horribly inefficient and designed more around corporate profits than around providing an effective service to all.
 
fatbatman said:
There is correlation "Up to 1 in 4 American families delay or put off seeking medical attention because they can't afford it."

I know you've linked to a poll but perhaps the majority of people who voted are mistaken.

In proportion to GDP, the US spends more on free healthcare than we do and at the same time have a massively more used private healthcare system than we so. What does this tell us?
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It tells us that their healthcare costs are higher, not better. Your link says Americans have a lower than average life expectancy and that, that metric is a good indication of healthcare quality.

Despite (or because of this) 28 million Americans have no access to any healthcare be-it public or private and that 1 in 4 have delayed or don't seek care when they need it because they can't afford it.

Anyway this is so far OT now and I feel I've clarified the point I was making as did your link.
 
LOAM said:
It tells us that their healthcare costs are higher, not better. Your link says Americans have a lower than average life expectancy and that, that metric is a good indication of healthcare quality.

Despite (or because of this) 28 million Americans have no access to any healthcare be-it public or private and that 1 in 4 have delayed or don't seek care when they need it because they can't afford it.

Anyway this is so far OT now and I feel I've clarified the point I was making as did your link.
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But that's not a fact that friend, its one poll and one website.
 
fatbatman said:
No it shows that people are misinformed and can most likely get the free healthcare they need, they just don't know how.
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I think you need to crib up on the US system my friend. Even unemployed people often have to pay for health coverage. That's why so many have no insurance at all.

And when when you have coverage, it can still cost a lot to have medical care thanks to what we would call the "excess" on the policy. So people don't get care even when they need it. Which was what was said in the original post on this off topic diversion.
 
fatbatman said:
But that's not a fact that friend, its one poll and one website.
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https://www.healthcarefinancenews.com/news/more-half-americans-have-avoided-medical-care-due-cost

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/16/health/coronavirus-insurance-healthcare.html

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jan/07/americans-healthcare-medical-costs

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/nea...kipping-medical-care-because-of-the-cost.html

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/11/nea...kipping-medical-care-because-of-the-cost.html

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4351276/

https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3097


Multiple sites, multiple studies. There's more if you look.
I guess when you're after establishing if people are doing something you do have to actually ask them.

If you refuse to accept several polls and studies using standard numbers of participants, because it goes against your narrative though then there's little point in engagement.

You should have said you were a post truth kind of guy, I wouldn't have wasted my time.
 
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