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let me see those vids...
In particular the part were he only provides 1 benchmark result for nvidia's new card.
Let me save you the trouble, you won't find it. Like I said, he will blurb about nvidia if that's the trending topic. But I never saw him not review a nvidia card properly either.

But if there is such a video I would be more then happy to see it. Link me.

 
I agree with everything he says but it's not as if Nvidia cards are hitting msrp either so he could have put those final thoughts at the end of any review in the last few months.
In summary don't buy any of these cards(Nvidia/AMD) until the prices settle down.

Steve is right the prices are insane. He is wrong to single out amd though nvidia cards are massively above msrp too.

Sounds like part of the jigsaw is shipping costs but who knows how much is down to amd and nvidia themselves. Its not like we are ever going to be told the truth anyway.

He does mention that Nvidia are doing it too, he says it's exactly what they've been accused of with the 30 series and exactly what they did with the 2080Ti. I suppose it's an AMD video. Maybe there will be more discussion on it in their Q&A. Lets face it, GPU prices are too high and that's, IMHO, not including the current excessive markup. Steve sums it up well in the final thoughts.
 
off hand i remember the 20 series vid, he slammed nvidia, and has many times.
I do recall, it was trending at the time and it was just his typical blurb of the moment.

He was complaining about not receiving a sample from nvidia that other reviewers got. Yet he went through hoops to make sure to be in Nvidia's good graces. Not related to what I posted. But does show how he graveled to make amends with Nvidia. While being salty about it and called out his fellow reviewers. Pretty salty.

Which, in hindsight, shows why he's not saying much about Nvidia price fixing and charging more in the AMD video.

So thanks for clarifying that.

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That video is nullified as he had no problem getting a 3080 sampled to him:
https://youtu.be/csSmiaR3RVE

Like I said before, he blurbs out what's trending. But he will stick to nvidia like hot gum undeneath a old desk table.

So you won't see him go after nvidia like he does AMD unless it effects him personally. Just like the video you posted. Just like the 3080 posted after that, you see his true nature/opinion with nvidia.
 
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Well who cares if he's attacking AMD? The prices are much higher than they should be and no one from AMD is telling us what's going on. And there are no videocards for sale anywhere.
I think all reviewers are screwing AMD. The same as AMD is screwing us. :)
 
Well who cares if he's attacking AMD? The prices are much higher than they should be and no one from AMD is telling us what's going on. And there are no videocards for sale anywhere.
I think all reviewers are screwing AMD. The same as AMD is screwing us. :)

I think it's very important that AMD concentrate on getting the right reviews first and ignore everything else for now. Theres nothing more critical than quality of reviews and YouTube videos now that they have a great product. I hope they are focussing the entire corporate bandwidth on fixing them. Maybe seed samples with more reviewers and try to favourably move the consensus.
 
Didn't Steve mention something about nvidia pricing in regards it's at a point so low that AiB companies cannot turn a profit on the 3000 series cards too?
 
Well who cares if he's attacking AMD? The prices are much higher than they should be and no one from AMD is telling us what's going on. And there are no videocards for sale anywhere.
I think all reviewers are screwing AMD. The same as AMD is screwing us. :)
It's about the hivemind though. Nvidia did it with the 2000 series and very few bat an eye paying $1200 for a video card. Not considering that AMD was paying attention. True hypocrisy at it's finest. Even in that video you saw those reviewers giving 2080ti 90-100% score. And people bought them with a card that replaced it for almost 1/2 the price. Now that news comes out that the reason why people can't buy nvidia cards is because nvidia sold $175m worth of dies to miners. Some will happily wait in line until a die is created now.

So who's really screwing you? AMD charging more that you can refuse to buy? Or buying Nvidia at a higher prices that replaced buy a sku at nearly half the price and made to wait for new stock because nvidia sold thier skus to miners...Known for downclocking gpu boost for stability, selling you boards that cannot match the gpu boost. Didn't sanction an AIB for scalping consumers. Their own store exposing personal information. The list goes on and on. There is a lot of things some of you are willing to give nvidia a pass on.

AMD charges more for their cards with no other controversy other then availability and price and they are now the false equivalent to everything nvidia has done to show anti-consumer behavior.

:D
 
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In fairness both companies suck for their 2 launches. Just with the current global issue everything has compounded it and brought it to more extremes. The prices for both sets were going to be low, but they were only ever going to be for that brief period. Then the hike up to the "real cost". I am equally disappointed with both companies doing this, but I think people are calling AMD on it more because they somehow expected better.. the prices for the 6000 series seem reasonable to me especially given their performance. The only reason they lost me as a purchaser is because there was nothing for me to buy at "launch"
I am sure stocks will improve for AMD, they can hardly get worse. The rtx 3000s took 2 months to get to people. I am sure AMD will do the same if not better.
 
In fairness both companies suck for their 2 launches. Just with the current global issue everything has compounded it and brought it to more extremes. The prices for both sets were going to be low, but they were only ever going to be for that brief period. Then the hike up to the "real cost". I am equally disappointed with both companies doing this, but I think people are calling AMD on it more because they somehow expected better.. the prices for the 6000 series seem reasonable to me especially given their performance. The only reason they lost me as a purchaser is because there was nothing for me to buy at "launch"
I am sure stocks will improve for AMD, they can hardly get worse. The rtx 3000s took 2 months to get to people. I am sure AMD will do the same if not better.

What are you saying. Reviews have been great. The gpu can easily take 2750 MHz just like that. I am rabidly searching for more reviews and YouTube videos. It's all part of the launch hype.
 
The issue is that there was nothing to buy and the list prices were much higher than msrp. Those issues compounded each other and that's why it has damaged the perception of amds launch.

Nvidia had cards are launch, even though not enough to meet demand, so people could get them.

It's the compounding of several layers that makes amds launch seem so ****
 
Six months ago: AMD is king for consumers, all praise be Lisa Su

Steve from Hardware Unboxed: I'm so sick of this industry

AMD trolling so hard with prices that Steve is thinking of quitting
 
Six months ago: AMD is king for consumers, all praise be Lisa Su

Steve from Hardware Unboxed: I'm sick of this industry

AMD trolling so hard with prices that Steve is thinking of quiting

Lets just remember who set that “high price” bar ;)
 
Both, the answer is both

All it took for AMD to screw you over is the lack of availability and higher price.

But it takes Nvidia to:
-No available stock at the suggested MSRP
-Pricing the skus higher then MSRP
-Sell you a board that blackscreens because of imbalance of capacitors
-Provide you a driver update to lower gpu boost to fix black screens.
-3080 having a 4-5 month shelf life by selling you a lower vram card. To later EOL it for a higher vram card in 2021.
-Did not provide the 50% performance boost over Turing for a flagship to flagship card.
-AIB caught, but never sanction, scalping their own customers at double the price
-Nvidia sold dies to miners instead of filling existing orders. Leaving you to wait. And artificially creating a shortage thus keeping prices on ampere higher, allegedly.

I'm not saying AMD's pricing isn't exorbitant. It is. However, it's the 1st time in years AMD provided a TI level of performance. However, when you compare and contrast what it takes you to saying when AMD screws you vs when Nvidia is a bit lopsided.
 
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All it took for AMD to screw you over is the lack of availability and higher price.

But it takes Nvidia to:
-No available stock at the suggested MSRP
-Pricing the skus higher then MSRP
-Sell you a board that blackscreens because of imbalance of capacitors
-Provide you a driver update to lower gpu boost to fix black screens.
-3080 having a 4-5 month shelf life by selling you a lower vram card. To later EOL it for a higher vram card in 2021.
-Did not provide the 50% performance boost over Turing for a flagship to flagship card.
-AIB caught, but never sanction, scalping their own customers at double the price
-Nvidia sold dies to miners instead of filling existing orders. Leaving you to wait.

I'm not saying AMD's pricing isn't exorbitant. It is. However, it's the 1st time in years AMD provided a TI level of performance. However, when you compare and contrast what it takes you to saying when AMD screws you vs when Nvidia is a bit lopsided.

You forgot about AMD's drivers, theyve been screwing people for years :D
 
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