Same as everyone else who pre ordered the 3080 Tuf OC, after always making good progress, even moving 100's of places some weeks, I have moved a whole 11 places from 530 to 519 this week. I'm guessing all the folk who were going to bale have baled, and now we know that the AMD 6800 XT are showing themselves to be a really mixed bag, that the only folk left in the queue are folk who are in for the long run. It would be interesting for the update thread to use actual numbers instead of the vague, OK amounts, small amounts nonsense that we are getting ATM, maybe my idea and OC's idea of OK amounts are different, 11, to me, isn't a large amount and that was the last update we got about a week ago. Told myself that I'd wait until at least the new year, but at this rate moving 11 places a week it will be another year before I get my 3080. There has to be more to this than just supply and demand, I mean we are always told that not many ppl game on PC's these days, I just find it hard to believe that nearly 3 months after these cards were released that there is still this lack of inventory, it doesn't make sense, there has to be something else going on in the background.