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The thread which sometimes talks about RDNA2
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I understand that and whilst I am more interested in the 6800XT personally, I would be leaning toward the 3080 because of RT. Thankfully I will sit it out this time but good to see both pushing RT.And that is precisely why although I wanted a 6900XT, I’m now waiting for the 3090FE to restock.
A great 4K OLED is exactly that, great, having to spend ridiculous sums to get the required performance to runs games at full whack however is not.
Of course but a good cooling and TDP for one chip (6800xt)can sometimes not be enough for the other (6900xt). It needs better cooling so that it can boost higher and it needs more power.
They're essentially the same design...
That's why the 6900xt models with 3 power connectors and better cooling will play in a different league. Anyone buying a 6900xt reference, is making a big mistake, that card is kept down by design.
Potentially, will be interesting to see what way the third party cards perform vs the reference.
I've also only just picked up control, and I'm playing it with a 2060, bought so I could just have a usable machine. And it's doing ok, a very playable 50fps. Can't complain about that.
But what I've noticed is that when I turned RT off The Oldest House turned into an office block. Game level design just feels soulless without RT.
Game designers can either focus on RT design... Or things that work well in non-rt. I don't think that there's much of a halfway house because the compromises are so different. How much of the market do they burn, how much effort do they use on the 10% of players who can see it?
Yes, it's more immersive. But I remember having more WOW when I loaded Oblivion the first time. RT just doesn't have that much impact.
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Closer than I thought it would be.
Crying shame the RT perf is a generation behind else AMD would be a much better buy.
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Apologies if my post sounded like it was directed at you but it wasn't. I probably hadn't even read your post. Though watching someone play a game on youtube is no where near the same as playing the game yourself, hence the greater level of immersion.
Not seen that game in RT and doubt the video washes any RT out. Mind you, Demon Souls isn't really a high glass and metal environment for light to be as reflected as much as say a modern world environment game is.
May have a go at that Demon Souls - looks good since I got into that game type like the Witcher a bit recently (+100hrs).
And that's another game where these cards are stonking. Played about 30 hours on 1080ti and had to lower the settings at 4k obviously. 3080 +100 fps at maximum detail. Monster cards!
PS5 exclusive games are masterpieces of optimization. We will not see that kind of optimization on PC's very soon. Or games ported from PC to consoles. It is sad but the easiest/cheapest way to "optimize" a game, is to move the slider.Don't say that too loud, there are plenty here who think the devs just move a slider to the right a bit and *bam* PC has great RT well in excess of the consoles
Closer than I thought it would be.
Crying shame the RT perf is a generation behind else AMD would be a much better buy.
I reckon RT will be useable once AMD release thier DLSS competitor. As it stands the 6800XT can deliver RT close to the 3070 so an upscaler should help it become competitive with DLSS and most games will rely on upscaling for RT. Remember that Cyberpunk is a Nvidia sponsored game so the AMD performance is gimped by default. The 5700XT is around 10% behind the 2070 Super with RT turned off so there is an obvious bias in this outlier. Most other games will be console ports so should favour AMD imo.
I just disagree with the idea that the immersion factor of a purely visual change can only be measured/experienced when holding an input device. Have you never heard of Movies? Do people not feel immersed in the visuals of a movie (remember Avatar and people feeling depressed after watching a film https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...suicidal-able-visit-utopian-alien-planet.html)
If we were discussing FPS, or high referesh rate, things that affect the input device then yes you would have a point. But RT is purely visual (apart from the destruction of your framerate).
If you want, you can try toexplain how RT affects a users connection with the input device, so that we can understand why you feel this way.
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I wasn't looking for an argument. You assumed I was addressing you in what I wrote originally. When I wasn't.
You've assumed I've never seen movies and dismiss other's opinions. Utterly disappointing to you, nail on the head to others.
What display and gfx card you use again?
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I see Woodsta is at it again.
Oh, the AMD employee again, someone else who says no one else knows what HDR looks like but doesn't own a panel themselves. LOL!
When they gonna let you in the labs to see it?
Use the ignore feature with this one
would be my advice as you won’t be missing anything worthwhile.
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https://twitter.com/IanCutress/status/1337423558042120194?s=20
So Zen2 should work with SAM on the RX6000 series??
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So Zen2 should work with SAM on the RX6000 series??
SAM can run on almost everything - only reason no one bothered till now is due to bios work involved and it only adds 1 or 2% performance on average
SAM is at the bottom of the chain, there is easier fruit to pick - it's strange AMD opted to put resources into such a tiny affect on performance Is have thought there are easier gains elsewhere
SAM is at the bottom of the chain, there is easier fruit to pick - it's strange AMD opted to put resources into such a tiny affect on performance Is have thought there are easier gains elsewhere
Hey Kaapstad
you still want a 6900XT Asus Strix LC?
https://mobile.twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1337405930351243265/photo/1
These prices makes the rtx3090 look like an bargain.
Better start saving, the LC won't be cheap at probably 2000 euro
you still want a 6900XT Asus Strix LC?
https://mobile.twitter.com/VideoCardz/status/1337405930351243265/photo/1
These prices makes the rtx3090 look like an bargain.
Better start saving, the LC won't be cheap at probably 2000 euro
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Don't need to worry about 2x 8pin over 3x. I had the R9 295x2, that didn't have an issue pulling 500w+ out of 2x 8 pin.
I think we need to be careful this time around as that’s a mistake some have made with their 2x8pin 3090s.
The Evga XOC bios has a hard limit of 150w per port, if you flash onto a two port card you end up with a 300w card instead of a 450w one as the bios won’t pull more than 150w per port.
That said, it depends on whether there will be an XOC bios for the 6900XT at all and which manufacturer does one.
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