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When will GPUs return to normal pricing....

DeliciousStorage said:
Short term no, but long term it seems like a safer option than Fiat which is guaranteed to lose value through inflation.
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It's amazing how many people are unaware of the inflationary risk to their money. "But it's safe in the bank". The more money you have, the bigger the issue finding somewhere safe (at least keeps up with inflation) to keep it is. Nothing is 100% safe, which is why any decent advisor will recommend spreading your money around to hedge those risks. I can only see products getting more expensive. The whole disposable goods and green agenda is becoming more prevalent, I foresee a return to the old days of more expensive, possibly home grown, goods that last longer and are more repairable. I don't include PC tech in all of this, that's too specialised.
 
DeliciousStorage said:
Short term no, but long term it seems like a safer option than Fiat which is guaranteed to lose value through inflation.
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Jesus. No it's not safer than 'fiat' in any way at all. Yes, by holding currency you will slowly lose value to inflation, very slowly. This is to get you to either spend or invest it, rather than somehow expect the rest of society to pay you just for sitting on it. This does not make cryptocurrency "safer" in the long or short term, it is a risky, volatile, speculative asset, and if you put more into it than you can easily afford to see flushed down the toilet then you're a fool.
 
Troezar said:
It's amazing how many people are unaware of the inflationary risk to their money.
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The inflationary 'risk' to money is small and reasonably well understood. Compared to the volatility risks of cryptocurrency it's negligible. Just because the value of A may go down slowly in a managed, long-term way doesn't make B a haven.
 
Jimmy Weirdarms said:
The inflationary 'risk' to money is small and reasonably well understood. Compared to the volatility risks of cryptocurrency it's negligible. Just because the value of A may go down slowly in a managed, long-term way doesn't make B a haven.
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You need to reread what I said. I'm not advocating crypto. I'm just pointing out money devalues, usually between 10-20 years to halve in value. I'm not saying it is a greater risk than crypto but neither is it no risk, especially as its value is beyond our control. The value of all fiat is linked to confidence, I would say that is equally true of Bitcoin despite being finite. Even precious metal coins lost confidence at one time due to them being shaved by shady people, hence the milled edges.
 
Where is best to look for graphics cards? I intend on building PC sometime this year (we will see) but obviously with the whole GPU situation it looks like I'll never get to build one... Other than here and couple other places don't know where to look? Either way I will not be getting anything off ebay etc.
 
No one can say here where else to look.so I'd go looking on Reddit or something for UK shops. There are many and not all have the same orr even close to same prices.

You can always try an alert on discord but honestly they're not very good. I'm 99% sure people getting them from live stock are using bots to do so.
 
So in terms of a novice, it looks like it will be really difficult to get something decent for a normal price? Until.... mid/end 2021? I am just trying to guage whether to start buying bits slowly in the meantime.
 
Troezar said:
The value of all fiat is linked to confidence, I would say that is equally true of Bitcoin despite being finite.
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While this is a true statement, the value of floating, government currencies is not *only* linked to confidence, and the central banks have a variety of techniques aimed at keeping the value of it roughly stable. These are missing in cryptocurrency.
 
lemonkettaz said:
So in terms of a novice, it looks like it will be really difficult to get something decent for a normal price? Until.... mid/end 2021? I am just trying to guage whether to start buying bits slowly in the meantime.
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i would wait until the AMD investor call at the end of this month and the re-asses.
 
KoR_Wraith said:
Cards are still selling fast but not quite as fast as before. I predict normal availability by April.
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I only see that with 3090s. I have seen models staying in stock for days now but they do tend to be massively price gouged in the first place and they still do eventually sell out still.
 
Not anytime soon

USA gpu import tariff waiver has expired, manufacturers talking the opportunity to increase prices, ASUS was first out the block announcing prices increase for GPUs and motherboards.

US data shows on average GPUs will get an $80usd increase in price in the next couple weeks
 
Troezar said:
It's amazing how many people are unaware of the inflationary risk to their money. "But it's safe in the bank". The more money you have, the bigger the issue finding somewhere safe (at least keeps up with inflation) to keep it is. Nothing is 100% safe, which is why any decent advisor will recommend spreading your money around to hedge those risks. I can only see products getting more expensive. The whole disposable goods and green agenda is becoming more prevalent, I foresee a return to the old days of more expensive, possibly home grown, goods that last longer and are more repairable. I don't include PC tech in all of this, that's too specialised.
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Rumours of 4080 already and AMD released a 5000XT series card the same year as a 6000XT series card. Launches are getting closer and closer, I think within 5 years we will have 2 gpu series per year with 10+ sku's each, and it will be the complete norm to have no stock at all.
 
KoR_Wraith said:
Cards are still selling fast but not quite as fast as before. I predict normal availability by April.
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I would love some of what you are on, if I click on a product alert the moment it appears, 9/10 its out of stock when the page loads, if it is in stock it is typically gone within 30 seconds. GPU demand vs supply is insane and we can see OCUK wont even have their queue cleared by then based on numbers reported.
 
chrcoluk said:
Rumours of 4080 already and AMD released a 5000XT series card the same year as a 6000XT series card. Launches are getting closer and closer, I think within 5 years we will have 2 gpu series per year with 10+ sku's each, and it will be the complete norm to have no stock at all.
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I was thinking more from a "homegrown" point of view, we aren't making any British GPU's anytime soon :) I think you're right in that the industry as a whole has jumped on the ways to monetise gaming and will be milking it for all it's worth. I'm expecting this to all subside a bit once the world gets back to normal. This may all look bad to us but if we'd lived through the Roaring Twenties, the depression in the 1930's and world war in the 40's we'd never have thought things would improve, but generally speaking they do, with a few blips along the way ;)
 
lemonkettaz said:
So in terms of a novice, it looks like it will be really difficult to get something decent for a normal price? Until.... mid/end 2021? I am just trying to guage whether to start buying bits slowly in the meantime.
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As you've got more than enough posts - THe Members market could also be a good place. Good luck
 
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