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Does anyone have any recommendations for some 'medium' weight water/wind proof gloves? I have a pair of provis 360 gloves but they're a bit ungainly so only use them in the most extreme cases. Went out today wearing just my ski inners, and honestly thought my hands were going to drop off, couldn't feel anything from my wrist down once the fog had set in and got them nice and damp.

So looking for something that's fairly lightweight, that will keep my hands functioning in this kind of weather, without being too cumbersome on the shifters! So something between ski inners, and the provis ones I guess.

Cheers
 
Hasn't it been in iPlayer for about half a year?
yes you are right , I missed your thread, I'd previously seen a much more glamorous Lance film (need to identify it) but this is much more self-reflective,
and came out with more sympathy for the guy, salient that he didn't reject growth hormone having caused his cancer, an eye opener on the lifestyle too.
 
I see this brand around London quite a bit. Kinda convinced they decided to see how many mamils they can get to ride around with P N S (note they missed some vowels) written on their lycra.
As with many of these things... They're priced and branded in such a way to be a 'Rapha alternative' to hook that part of the market. Quite a similar generally plain design using pastel kinda colours... They don't look that bad, but the prices are shocking considering how plain and boring they are.

So aye, PNS stuff I don't care how good it may be or how Londony pro commuter trendy it may be.... it can **** off!
Hahaha that is a great story! :D

Managed to pull/strain/tear my calve on this mornings ride.
Hope it's cleared/clearing up! Rest and recovery is best with any kind of strain/sprain/tear.

Does anyone have any recommendations for some 'medium' weight water/wind proof gloves? I have a pair of provis 360 gloves but they're a bit ungainly so only use them in the most extreme cases. Went out today wearing just my ski inners, and honestly thought my hands were going to drop off, couldn't feel anything from my wrist down once the fog had set in and got them nice and damp.

So looking for something that's fairly lightweight, that will keep my hands functioning in this kind of weather, without being too cumbersome on the shifters! So something between ski inners, and the provis ones I guess.

Cheers
Woiuld need to know for sure which Proviz ones you have, but also have no direct expereince with them to know for sure how thick they are, or how clammy etc.

I used to use DHB windproof gloves quite a bit but 3-4 years ago found they became quite clammy on me, so switched to Sportful as it was around the same time I switched lots of kit over to Sportful and have been really happy with them. I found Castelli quite expensive (although I own more Castelli jerseys than any other) especially things like their gloves. Sportful are not cheap, but a few quid below Castelli and very very similar so I took a punt and glad I did.

Prices are now all higher than what I recall, but the basic essential windproof ones are very good gloves for the money. I paid around £15 for my V1 in a sale. I have the SottoZero as my winter glove and they are amazing. Think I paid £40 or 45 for mine and was a good price for them. Very thermal, windproof and have ridden down to -10 in them (although much below -10 windchill my thumbs suffered). They're as insulated as my snowboarding gloves with less than half the bulk. But they do get sodden in constant rain. Had a 1.5 hour snowball fight in them yesterday and starting to feel damp and cold by the end. Was very tempted by the Fiandre ones as they have a little less insulation but far more waterproofing but never ended up getting a pair.

But like I say, prices of them are pretty high at the moment, not to mention limited sizing. Shop around. Galibier gloves are quite good too, got my other half a couple of pairs she loves (I really like the design of the Roubaix), but I never got on that well with the Barrier ones I got myself, the padding bits where just a bit too thick and gave me an uncomfortable bump on my palm. Still wear them commuting sometimes but wouldn't do longer rides. Good for the money but comparable with other basic gloves from places like DHB.

yes you are right , I missed your thread, I'd previously seen a much more glamorous Lance film (need to identify it) but this is much more self-reflective,
and came out with more sympathy for the guy, salient that he didn't reject growth hormone having caused his cancer, an eye opener on the lifestyle too.
Will watch that and thanks for the prompt for that thread, must hunt some of those down.

Quite liked 'The Program'. Good to see in isolation to the facts and all the media hype around it even now. Gives a good account of it from Walsh's side and fairly impartial to the Armstrong side (considering it was written from Walsh's book).

I might have seen Lance, can't actually recall but know I've watched something more documentary-ish with him in. I recall quite a big part of it was about his cancer recovery and all the work he did for the charity side of things, which in my mind redeems much of what he did at the time. Equally I blame the culture and the sport back then at least as much as I directly blame him for what went on. But some of what he did afterwards to the other riders is utterly unforgivable and really shows what his character is really like...
 
Wiggle have quietly stopped offering Price Match...

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That's pretty ****! They are the same bloody company!

I was annoyed at NoPinz in December.... they emailed everyone a 12% off vouchers and literally said in the email, use this 12% off NOW or pay 30% more after Brexit.
I'm as much of a hater of Brexit and laughing at the karma to all the leavers but for a UK based company who operate solely from the UK, to send an email like that out to everyone is a bit disgusting IMO.
 
That's pretty ****! They are the same bloody company!

I was annoyed at NoPinz in December.... they emailed everyone a 12% off vouchers and literally said in the email, use this 12% off NOW or pay 30% more after Brexit.
I'm as much of a hater of Brexit and laughing at the karma to all the leavers but for a UK based company who operate solely from the UK, to send an email like that out to everyone is a bit disgusting IMO.

They source materials and some of their products from outside the UK though so Brexit is going to have an impact on their prices.
 
Glad I got my 4iiii before Brexit from mantel.

Hopefully this will all settle down in a few months, the vat thing is Europe wide and the Brexit thing is the source of materials I think.
 
They source materials and some of their products from outside the UK though so Brexit is going to have an impact on their prices.

Yeah I understand that portion of it. My issue is the way they communicated it as a British business was pretty horrendous.
The figure for percentage increase was absolutely taken straight out their backside as well to try and push pre xmas sales.....
 
Wiggle have quietly stopped offering Price Match...

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That is utterly RUDE considering they're the same darn company! There's even things I've ordered within the past few months from CRC that come in Wiggle packaging and Wiggle on the tracking info! :rolleyes:

I was annoyed at NoPinz in December.... they emailed everyone a 12% off vouchers and literally said in the email, use this 12% off NOW or pay 30% more after Brexit.
I'm as much of a hater of Brexit and laughing at the karma to all the leavers but for a UK based company who operate solely from the UK, to send an email like that out to everyone is a bit disgusting IMO.
I thought exactly the same when I saw it, especially as one of their main selling points is 'Made in Devon'!

I can understand it if they out sourced their production, but they don't and surely any materials would be from China/Taiwan. I bet they get it through an EU supplier rather than directly... Might explain their 3-4 month delivery times.

To note, for 3R we had some team colour socks and caps made. Not normally available to teams. They 'outsourced' those and they had a 4-5 month leadtime. When they turned up (expecting to be 'made in china') actually came branded 'made in EU'. Was quite pleased to read that. Also the caps came the 'wrong blue' so we actually all got free replacements.

Also to note, the 3R 'Race' jerseys have had size changes (in 2019) and a big price hike... £66 in July 2018, £79.99 in July 2020. Guessing they'll be £105 now...

Yeah been a bunch of that kinda message. I was looking at Mantel the other day for a freehub... they won't ship to UK anymore :(
Wow that's a surprise, I know my LBS uses them for supply on quite a lot of stuff. Unless it's just a shipping to end users thing.

Actually arguing with my Finance Director about a Teamviewer licence renewal at the moment. As it's in Sterling and has 20% VAT then surely it doesn't apply as a 'EU Service'!? Would be different if we where purchasing in EURO surely (which we could do...)

The figure for percentage increase was absolutely taken straight out their backside as well to try and push pre xmas sales.....
Yup. Pre sales/scare marketing tactics. Even an email dated the 17th December reads:
"Brexit is looming, and with a trade deal looking thin, we are anticipating our prices will have to have to rise by 8-12%"

Then at the bottom:
"By leaving it until the new year, it could equate to paying up to 24% more!"

:rolleyes:
 
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Cannondale prices also rising as of tomorrow.

Will be interesting to see where they go to. System six was £4k 2020 and £4.5k 2021 with knot bar and stem over vision cockpit previously.

Most of this is freight cost as far as I can tell. Spoke with a guy who worked for a freight company and he was saying container cost is at least 4 times as much as it was a year ago.
 
Surely the increases in prices won't be sustainable.

Presumably we will see more UK Bike Manufacturers spring up. Although, I can't see that making it cheaper.
 
That's crazy - unless the containers are coming from Europe! :mad::rolleyes:

Most brands ship bikes fully boxed from Taiwan on boats, cube go china - Germany - Holland - shop.

Cube have created cube UK that import them in so shops don't have to deal with the import nonsense.

China freight prices I'm talking about. The tariff and delays at the border are a separate thing.
 
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Surely the increases in prices won't be sustainable.

Presumably we will see more UK Bike Manufacturers spring up. Although, I can't see that making it cheaper.

The freight increases are COVID driven so temporary in theory. I can’t see U.K. manufacturers being able to offer bikes at a reasonable price when materials, parts and groupsets are so scarce at the moment. Everyone’s exposed to the same issues.
 
The freight increases are COVID driven so temporary in theory. I can’t see U.K. manufacturers being able to offer bikes at a reasonable price when materials, parts and groupsets are so scarce at the moment. Everyone’s exposed to the same issues.

I’m hoping two issues are resolved with the next 12 months. The increase in demand due to Covid-19 (or more supply) and the brexit related shipping issues.

Just not worth buying at the moment.
 
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