• Competitor rules

    Please remember that any mention of competitors, hinting at competitors or offering to provide details of competitors will result in an account suspension. The full rules can be found under the 'Terms and Rules' link in the bottom right corner of your screen. Just don't mention competitors in any way, shape or form and you'll be OK.

30xx Series Founders Edition

g67575 said:
Why?
Click to expand...

History. I've been watching drops since, IIRC, November. There was usually a drop every week, but often only one or two models. There have been longer gaps but they're unusual. And then the EU activity is a good sign that cards are shipping.

Nothing is guaranteed, patterns have been broken in that time, so nobody can say for sure. But I'm almost certain we'll have a drop of at least some models this week.
 
A2B said:
History. I've been watching drops since, IIRC, November. There was usually a drop every week, but often only one or two models. There have been longer gaps but they're unusual. And then the EU activity is a good sign that cards are shipping.

Nothing is guaranteed, patterns have been broken in that time, so nobody can say for sure. But I'm almost certain we'll have a drop of at least some models this week.
Click to expand...
maybe 5 rtx3080s if we're lucky
 
g67575 said:
Apparently, the drop on LDLC (Italy and France) only lasted a few minutes, not a good sign.
Click to expand...

That's the way they generally go, only thing that sticks around for any length of time is the 3090.

And going by discord the amount of people that see the drop notifications in the first minute after it hits is dozens so they go quick. You really have to be hovering over your phone to have a chance of getting a 3080.
 
Last edited:
yeah, the 3090 is often around for hours, and once for several days (but on a link that wasn't generally known, so I assume they sold fewer than usual).
 
But if even the RTX 3070 FE stock is dire, it means things have got worse, not better (I expected things to improve within a few months of the 3070 launch). It's much better to have low expectations

WmiEl.png.jpg
 
Last edited:
nvidia has said no improvement expected for Q1, and AMD have said the same for the first half of the year. So this could last a few months yet.
 
exhashdotdot said:
Caveat: I'm a bit OCD

The 3070 FE looks sweet and is nice and small but the cooler is a bit frustrating. I found that the fans constantly produce a high pitched whirr which is very irritating when I'm prioritising a silent (or near silent build); the whirr obviously disappears when the fans are in idle but it's very noticeable otherwise.

Source: some other guy on reddit

I RMA'd the card and the replacement had the exact same issue. After chatting to some people on the SFFPC and Nvidia discord, I discovered that this is basically working as intended for Nvidia; it's not noticeable if you have a case with lots of fans and noise but in silent builds I found it to be noticeable.

Interestingly, some people also noticed the issue on the 3080 FE as well (I haven't got one... yet).

So long story short, I bought a EVGA 3070 XC3 Ultra, and sold my FE. Couldn't be happier, the XC3 is an amazing card; bit of a tight squeeze in the Ncase M1 though!
Click to expand...

I just added my fan curve to my 3080 FE (so now spins at idle) and for a build I put effort into making quiet its not noticeable, when the fans ramp up in speed e.g. on a reboot, they no more noisy than my previous partner cards. For sure the best stock card I have seen. Still mesmerised by the overall design of the card, you can grip this tight when installing, nothing will bend its a solid construction, its also heavy indicating quality.
 
I think it's a combination of Samsung 8nm yield problems and poor availability of GDDR6 VRAM, with the yield problem affecting the 3080/3090 to a greater extent (presumably there's no GDDR6X supply problem too). This article gives me some hope however, regarding GDDR6 VRAM:
"Global shortage of GDDR6 is a dominant factor in the supply shortages being faced by AMD ... RX 6000, NVIDIA RTX 3070, and RTX 3060 Ti GPUs with the situation likely to improve only around February 2021"

link here:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Globa...concern-for-the-next-few-months.508476.0.html

So hopefully, there will be more 3060 TIs/3070s and RX6800 GPUs available to buy this February, or early March. One problem though, is that the Ampere mobile GPUs (likely RX 6000m series too) will also need GDDR6 VRAM - guess which will be prioritized?

And so do the PS5, Series X and RX 6700 / XT and RTX 3060 GPUs.
 
Last edited:
I'm not seeing any evidence of yield issues on Samsung 8nm - that isn't being reported by Samsung, their other customers or more reliable sources. From digging into some of their other customers they seem to be reporting yields as OK - not as good as TSMC 7nm but no specific issues.

nVidia doesn't seem to have any issues producing the 3090 with 3080 and 3090 owner threads on here and elsewhere similar size, etc. and 3090s coming through more often even than 3080 which you wouldn't really expect to be the case with yield issues.

I think the main problem there is simply Samsung doesn't have the scale of production required to cope.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom