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It's always done.
Was it George Floyds car? They would have run the plates but did they ask for his ID/license?
Derek Chauvin murder trial (Police officer who arrested George Floyd)
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Was it George Floyds car? They would have run the plates but did they ask for his ID/license?
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It also states in that report that the amount of fentynyl in his system would have been fatal under normal circumstances. These weren't normal circumstances, as he also had covid-19 along with several other drugs.
If his corrotid artery was impaired he would have passed out very quickly.
If his corrotid artery was impaired he would have passed out very quickly.
He was well know to police and has worked with officers, so they knew him from old.
So once they spotted him they knew they was in for trouble.
He was done for armed robbery. So known to carry a gun.
He has a very long arrest record.
He was selling crack in 2004.
He had to leave a state because people hated him.
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How did he know this?
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If they can prove the chokehold was assault it would meet this criteria:
- Causing someone’s death without intending the death of anyone, while committing a felony other than criminal sexual conduct (rape or sexual assault which would be first-degree murder) or a drive-by shooting
(a) Whoever, without intent to effect the death of any person, causes the death of another by perpetrating an act eminently dangerous to others and evincing a depraved mind, without regard for human life, is guilty of murder in the third degree and may be sentenced to imprisonment for not more than 25 years.
Even if you're 5'9" and 140lbs (as Chauvin is) and they're 6'5" and 220 lbs (as Floyd is)?
You've ignored or rather brushed aside the pertinent bit of the post you're replying to though - that Floyd was having breathing difficulties (or claiming to) before he was even put on the ground.
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Because you aren't contagious after 10 days...
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At no point was a choke hold used on GF though. Certainly not a choke hold in its text book definition.
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But the damage to his lungs would have already been done.
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Which has nothing to do with the question I was asked.
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Umm wait a minute lets say he had breathing issues. Do you think putting him in a chokehold and choking him would exacerbate the issue slightly?
Officers owe a duty of care to who they are arresting. That duty of care includes people who are having difficulty breathing and putting your knee on someone’s neck who is having difficulty breathing fails that duty of care standard. That’s my only point.
It goes hand in hand with the authoritarianism and bootlicking that right wing racists need to make themselves feel better.
Nope, not necessarily - in fact that isn't necessarily even sufficient for third-degree or manslaughter - big obvious problem is that they also need to prove that it was the cause of death too.
Second issue with that that you have glossed over is that it isn't merely "assault" it needs to be a felony... which is a bit dubious if it was an approved technique... It's one thing to say he's gone overboard or should have been more professional or made a bad call re: various decisions but that doesn't necessarily constitute a felony assault or similar... so in the event that the jury does believe it was the cause of death or substantially contributed to it then they could end up with manslaughter or 3rd degree, 2nd degree is still a rather big reach.
fuller definition here if interested:
https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.19
That's fine but the main question here isn't did Chauvin fail in his duty of care or was Chauvin a bit rough - it is is Chauving guilty of 2nd or 3rd degree murder or mansalughter.
I agree that their actions were bad and that they could have done much better here, part of that might be individual decisions part of that might be their training, guidelines etc... (in which case you can't necessarily punish someone for not being a perfect or very good cop and knowing when to apply some discretion and ignore the dodgy training or guidelines etc..). In an ideal world everyone is smart and competent (and it an easy assumption to make in retrospect) in reality, in the heat of the moment and with sub-par training and guidelines, procedures that are themselves flawed or dangerous then some average, mediocre cops could easily be like the other three in this incident and some mediocre to poor cops could easily be like Chauvin.
To be precise, the corporate media wouldn't report on it and whip their left wing sheep up into a frenzy about it. Joe Biden is pretty much everything they accused Donald Trump of being but the media coverage of him is totally different and therefore their viewers opinion of him is totally different. A few years ago they were frothing about kids in cages and now like the media they ignore Biden's "overflow facilities".
Weather or not the person being arrested was already dying before police got involved is kind of important because it creates reasonable doubt as to what caused the death.
-and the cause of death is kind of important when trying to prove murder in court.
Client journalism doesn’t affect the left. Only centrists who prefer the optics of Biden committing these kind of atrocities over Trump, but don’t care for the atrocities themselves.
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