Upgrade from 6700k to 11400 would you ?

[spluff]

I currently have Corsair CMK16GX4M2B3000C15 Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 3000 MHz C15 XMP 2.0 in my i7-6700k system.

If I upgraded to 11400 and a B560 motherboard (or something similar) would I be able to use that memory? If I can would it be noticably slower than using newer memory?

Cheers

 

[mickyflinn]

Reuse it theres nothing wrong and you wont gain all but a few fps going higher mhz.

 

[alec]

You can use it no problem
It will be slower, not noticeably.

But 11400 is not much of an upgrade in the first place. As in the difference is also in that not noticeable range. It will still bottleneck the 3080.
Consider 5600X

 

[spluff]

I guess that is the reason i keep holding of upgrading my cpu as it doesnt seem worth it unless you spend big bucks (and still will be only minimal difference)

 

[mickyflinn]

If you play AAA titles 6 cores is going to help , your probablly going to get between 10 to 20% uplift in gaming going to a 11400 regardless.

Then theres pcie4 which can boost gpu fps by 3 to 10 % depending on game.

Selling your old stuff will offset the cost.

How is your pc performing now , fps ?

 

[spluff]

If you play AAA titles 6 cores is going to help , your probablly going to get between 10 to 20% uplift in gaming going to a 11400 regardless.

Then theres pcie4 which can boost gpu fps by 3 to 10 % depending on game.

Selling your old stuff will offset the cost.

How is your pc performing now , fps ?

I'm using a widescreen X34 Predator 3440x1440 and mostly I'm getting my 100fps (which is monitor refresh) Cyberpunk drops a bit, but im holding off playing that until its better patched.

I was thinking of the upgrade as what you said - it should be minimal cost if i get a decent price for my 6700k and motherboard and keep my memory. (seen 6700k selling for around £130 and mobo £70 on ebay - not sure i would get that though)

Would i still be able to use my Noctua NH-D14 or would i have to get another cpu hs/fan?

 

[mickyflinn]

I'm using a widescreen X34 Predator 3440x1440 and mostly I'm getting my 100fps (which is monitor refresh) Cyberpunk drops a bit, but im holding off playing that until its better patched.

I was thinking of the upgrade as what you said - it should be minimal cost if i get a decent price for my 6700k and motherboard and keep my memory. (seen 6700k selling for around £130 and mobo £70 on ebay - not sure i would get that though)

Would i still be able to use my Noctua NH-D14 or would i have to get another cpu hs/fan?

Yes definately reuse your Nochtua should fit as socket spacing is the same. I would check out the members market rather than ebay

 

[spluff]

Yes definately reuse your Nochtua should fit as socket spacing is the same. I would check out the members market rather than ebay

That's great I like that hs/fan combo

Would there be any noticeable improvements from 6700k -> 11400 at 3440x1440?

As the B560 motherboard is about 4 years newer - would that offer any improvements to my Asus Max VIII Hero?

Would I notice any improvements in boot up times / game load speeds / responsiveness etc

My system has been rock solid for all these years with a nice OC and I just want to feel do i need to upgrade or not haha

 

[Journey]

My system has been rock solid for all these years with a nice OC and I just want to feel do i need to upgrade or not haha

Sell the board/CPU/RAM as a combo, with a board like that, and if you have all the boxes etc. and it is well looked after you could easily get an almost free side-grade/upgrade, £220-270 is easily achievable (madness I know). I'd replace it with a 10400f/B560/16GB 3200MHz+ RAM ~£250-270, or 11400 if you want to send another £40-50. You can then consider it as a stepping-stone to a better upgrade if you want, and if you are happy then great you'll be able to use it for a good while.

Having 6c/12t is the absolute minimum for a gaming system now, regardless of the resolution.

 

[mickyflinn]

That's great I like that hs/fan combo

Would there be any noticeable improvements from 6700k -> 11400 at 3440x1440?

As the B560 motherboard is about 4 years newer - would that offer any improvements to my Asus Max VIII Hero?

Would I notice any improvements in boot up times / game load speeds / responsiveness etc

My system has been rock solid for all these years with a nice OC and I just want to feel do i need to upgrade or not haha

The above benefits will be what i mentioned earlier , loading times etc wont make ang diffrence.

The 6 core cpu is going to help with frame drops but if your happy thdn stay as you are.

Maybe change the thread title to 6700k to 11400 would you ?

 

[~>Dg<~]

You can use it no problem
It will be slower, not noticeably.

But 11400 is not much of an upgrade in the first place. As in the difference is also in that not noticeable range. It will still bottleneck the 3080.
Consider 5600X

if you look at gaming benchmarks you will get a considerable boost in games. also the 5600 isnt much faster than the 11400. in games. 6 cores you really do need in many games now. 4 core older i5s and i7s do get some bad drops and stuttering in many games. its deffo worth the swap.

 

[alec]

if you look at gaming benchmarks you will get a considerable boost in games. also the 5600 isnt much faster than the 11400. in games. 6 cores you really do need in many games now. 4 core older i5s and i7s do get some bad drops and stuttering in many games. its deffo worth the swap.

Using https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i5-11400f/23.html as guide
i3-10100 there can be used as analog to i7-6700K (same 4 cores 8 threads).
Looking at 1440p, 11400 is 6% faster in games, 5600X is another 5% faster
I think 5600X is worth it. But still won't be a huge jump.

I upgraded to 5800X from 6700K. Yes, its faster, sure. Not revolutionary.
Looking back I could have stayed on old system until Zen4/DDR5. But the upgrade itch was simply becoming unbearable.

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

The Core i7 6700K still fetches a decent secondhand prices IIRC. Also if you can get an H570 it also adds a PCI-E 4.0 NVME slot too. From reading the Optimum Tech review of the Core i5 11400F,if you pair one with a decent enough B560/H570 motherboard,plonk on a decent cooler and increase the TDP limits,it will basically overclock itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOpWJCWYa6k

Compared to the Ryzen 5 5600X,even though it is faster it is closer to £300,unless you can take advantage of a special offer the Core i5 11400F is much better value. If you do want to get a Zen3 CPU,I would look for a Ryzen 7 5800X bundle deal,and get that.

 

[~>Dg<~]

yeah that review really does show how good it is for money and performance. no way id pay inflated 5600 prices for about 6 percent extra performance. as above the 6700k fetches 100 quid alone. which literally almost pays for either your motherboard or a good chunk of the retail cpu price. its the time to swap and wont cost you much. sensible upgrade with not too much price to pay.

the only problem is ocuk dont stock the mobos for some reason yet. asrock steel knight looks a decent board.

 

[silvagti]

I'm in a similar quandary as I upgraded to a Ryzen B550 motherboard last year but because of availabililty, the imminent 5000 series launch and prices I ended up going with Ryzen 3100 (4 core) entry level chip with the intention of upgrading it in future. I plan on buying a new video card (something like a RTX 3060 or 3060Ti) as my current Geforce GTX 980 is no longer cutting it running newer games at the native 1440p/60Hz resolution of my monitor.

I'm aware you need a fast CPU to push high refresh rate games at 120/144fps but if you're just gaming at a more leisurely 60/75Hz do you still need the faster CPU to achieve that? Would the performance hit of running games on a Ryzen 3100 with a RTX 3060 actually result in a noticeably worse experience at 60Hz?

Just wondering as my current Ryzen 3100 is very similar in terms of performance on paper to the OP's i7-6700k?

 

[spluff]

Can someone explain why using a i5-11400 which has

base clock 2.6Ghz and boost 4.4GHz

would be better than my i7-6700k which has

base clock 4Ghz and boost 4.5Ghz (OC)

(well apart from the extra 2 Cores and 4 threads - I thought most games are CPU limited to 1 core? )

 

[CAT-THE-FIFTH]

Can someone explain why using a i5-11400 which has

base clock 2.6Ghz and boost 4.4GHz

would be better than my i7-6700k which has

base clock 4Ghz and boost 4.5Ghz (OC)

(well apart from the extra 2 Cores and 4 threads - I thought most games are CPU limited to 1 core? )

Its dependent on TDP and cooling. The lower figure is for multicore AVX benchmarks,when it is configured at a 65W TDP with the stock cooler.

However,if you have a better cooler,and raise the TDP limit from say 65W to 95W,then it will boost much higher than the 2.6GHZ minimum clockspeed. Stuff such as gaming also will usually have higher clockspeeds anyway as its less demanding.

 

[spluff]

Its dependent on TDP and cooling. The lower figure is for multicore AVX benchmarks,when it is configured at a 65W TDP with the stock cooler.

However,if you have a better cooler,and raise the TDP limit from say 65W to 95W,then it will boost much higher than the 2.6GHZ minimum clockspeed. Stuff such as gaming also will usually have higher clockspeeds anyway as its less demanding.

So this is kinda like overclocking but using the TDP? I am more concerned ingame performance.

Also I have been recommended the B560 and H570 motherboards - whats the difference? Which is better?

 

[~>Dg<~]

basically you use at full power get 4.4ghz. you will need a different cooler other than the stock one for this. you dont need a expensive one just one better than stock.

if you watch the video posted above it explains it. the extra two cores really help in gaming now. also because you can get decent money for your old stuff you can move to a newer platform for very little.

 

[Kelt]

Can someone explain why using a i5-11400 which has

base clock 2.6Ghz and boost 4.4GHz

would be better than my i7-6700k which has

base clock 4Ghz and boost 4.5Ghz (OC)

(well apart from the extra 2 Cores and 4 threads - I thought most games are CPU limited to 1 core? )

On the contrary, most modern games utilise six cores or more, it's the current sweet spot for gaming.

I'd say you'd definitely benefit from the 11400, especially if you turn off the 65W limit in BIOS.