3080ti 3070ti confirmed for April

The Old School Gamer · 29 Mar 2021 at 17:11

Settled on 3070 TUF as a stop gap card in my gaming PC.
So a upgrade to 3080Ti will do nicely but I'm quite relaxed about it, there is no rush as far as I'm concerned.
Might wait for the black friday or January sales and see what is available then.

Cooler running · 30 Mar 2021 at 00:01

hobib_ali said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OvAHc9Pa80

Not confirmed. I've seen 3 different "3080 ti leaks" not sure why you think this one is any more true.

GloriousMess · 30 Mar 2021 at 18:18

Bomberh said:
I like the following:

'By offering gamers a 20% memory bandwidth upgrade and 17.6% more CUDA cores and 2GB of additional GDDR6 memory, Nvidia will have what they need to compete with AMD's RX 6900 XT in the $999 section of the graphics card market.'

This is misleading, there isn't a $999 section of the graphics card market anymore. There's the legacy card bracket, and casus belli for divorce. That's what I'm seeing most at least.

five8five · 23 Apr 2021 at 14:55

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti allegedly launches May 25th

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-...edly-launches-may-25th-rtx-3070-ti-early-june

pp111 · 23 Apr 2021 at 15:01

BlueInf said:
Hopefully supply is good

Apparently there is a planned delivery of 175,000 cards on launch day, to the UK, transported by gold plated flying pigs.

pp111 · 23 Apr 2021 at 15:05

varkanoid said:
True I just dont get the "excitement" some people seem to have over this card as though its a mythical beast and will be the best 3xxx series to get.
If you cant buy existing releases now what makes people think they are going to get a 3080ti ? There were posters champing at the bit with its 20gb of VRAM now supposedly 12gb.
If all those people thinking the 3080 shortage is because they are making 3080ti cards. Yeah right believe it if I physically sees it.

More chance of winning the lottery and reading the news today about factory/foundry fires and problems it ain't going to get any better.

I agree. It's not going to be available so who cares? They are still saying that there are going to be shortages to 2023. So the ti's are just more cards that will be scalped and available if you have £2500 lying around and don't care what a huge waste of money that will be.

Aretak · 23 Apr 2021 at 15:09

They delayed it for months, so you'd hope they've been building up stock to at least ensure the launch isn't a total farce. We already know retailers have been receiving them. There's been a real dearth of 3080s showing up over the past couple of months, so maybe that's where all the dies are going.

godinman · 23 Apr 2021 at 15:21

I'm not that up on the new gen cards, but are the 3070ti specs a bit trash?

andybird123 · 23 Apr 2021 at 15:34

Gerard said:
And even then its pure chance if you get through all the hoops in time. Filling in the captcha before the appear so you can skip that step only seems to last a short while. More than likely by the time you get to the checkout the cards already gone.

I used discord, every other time it pinged I was busy but last week I had my phone in my hand so managed to click the link and even faffing about with payment options for 10 minutes it still went through. Like, there is a certain amount of luck involved if you aren't sat at a PC / mobile phone all day, but it is doable without a bot.

I mean, if you literally expect to be able to go on a website and order it like it's in stock, then yeah, we are not living in that world right now, but to say it's completely impossible without paying for a bot to do it for you, that's not really accurate either

imginy · 23 Apr 2021 at 15:36

Aretak said:
There's been a real dearth of 3080s showing up over the past couple of months, so maybe that's where all the dies are going.

I think they get bought up by miners before they even hit retail, the board partners and suplyiers can get double from a miner than selling them to stores.

I think any that are making it to stores like ocuk are sold as a prebuilt machine. They can sell a whole pc everytime then.

GloriousMess · 23 Apr 2021 at 16:38

I wonder how long it'll take for someone to reverse-engineer the BIOS to mitigate the crypto-crippling features on the 3080 Ti. I'm kinda more interested in that than the card itself, given that hardly anyone will get one.

Purgatory · 7 May 2021 at 02:18

Purgatory said:
I'll just leave this here and remind you in May to stop reading/watching clickbait articles based on no facts and only spread by people wanting to profit off your clicks.

So one week into May and no April 3080 Ti and now the joke is being played again May 26th by one site, May 31st or June 2nd by another site and June 3rd by another.. :cry:

... This joke has been running since January but at least now we have seen packaging of cards..

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-...to-be-announced-on-may-31st-launching-in-june

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-release-date-specs-performance-pricing/

Let's hope it doesn't end with .....

So who thinks they will get one this year for MSRP (whatever that will be, my guess is it will be $1150-$1200 MSRP for the FE if one comes out) and who thinks they will be 2x or 2.5x the MSRP for AIBS and scalped FE version if you can even get one this year.

Purgatory · 7 May 2021 at 02:29

GloriousMess said:
I wonder how long it'll take for someone to reverse-engineer the BIOS to mitigate the crypto-crippling features on the 3080 Ti. I'm kinda more interested in that than the card itself, given that hardly anyone will get one.

If it's a VBIOS limiter with drivers, I give it 4 to 6 weeks max for a VBIOS hack or driver hack.. Nvidia know this, it's just a short term way to try getting cards into gamers hands, it's like DRM on software basically just a way to hinder people for a while to make the ones really wanting it to pay and the ones that were never going to pay will pirate it when cracked versions appear as always happens.

This time Nvidia is hoping miners may think twice before buying something that may not be worth it to them in the short term or maybe long term depending if it gets hacked... but reality is everything gets hacked given enough time, skill or money.

BUT

the real problem will still be scalpers as a lot of gamers still wanting cards, which means scalpers will buy up everything still

.

gpuerrilla · 7 May 2021 at 08:28

Purgatory said:
So who thinks they will get one this year for MSRP (whatever that will be, my guess is it will be $1150-$1200 MSRP for the FE if one comes out) and who thinks they will be 2x or 2.5x the MSRP for AIBS and scalped FE version if you can even get one this year.

Judging by the plenty that seemed to get 3080, 3070 and 3060's.. when it comes to purchasing the FE from the one supplier that now restricts one card then your off the list, how do these folk think they will get one considering it was a tough job to score beyond the basket with all the other releases?

Purgatory said:
Nvidia know this, it's just a short term way to try getting cards into gamers hands

If this is the case, its not stopping miners buying them at all. Same audience buy it and wait for a solution, if its perma crippled they sell on scalped and look for something else? Nvidia wasted there time on this, if it was ever going to be worth it, that was back in autumn 2020 not after the horse had bolted.

Purgatory · 7 May 2021 at 16:56

Th0nt said:
Judging by the plenty that seemed to get 3080, 3070 and 3060's.. when it comes to purchasing the FE from the one supplier that now restricts one card then your off the list, how do these folk think they will get one considering it was a tough job to score beyond the basket with all the other releases?

If this is the case, its not stopping miners buying them at all. Same audience buy it and wait for a solution, if its perma crippled they sell on scalped and look for something else? Nvidia wasted there time on this, if it was ever going to be worth it, that was back in autumn 2020 not after the horse had bolted.

Nvidia are just trying to play the good guys and pretending they tried to help the gamers and people using cards for work, reality is they don't care who gets the cards aslong as they sell.

This whole GPU issue is telling us a lot about the future of anything made with silicon, reality is this not enough fabs and not enough investment in keeping supply stable, also you have the other issue of over supply and they sit in warehouses eg 2080ti was a good example of that and I'm sure a lot of retailers were worried if they would clear their stock before new gen appears, well we saw how that one went too. So probably this time retailers may have under ordered worried the prices would be too much for customers (which really they are apart from the unicorn 3080 with gimped VRAM at MSRP of course at scalped rate they are still silly money) but every other card really is expensive for what it is but demand and mining has made them 2x to 3x the MSRP and sold out still.

This time they sold out is because people avoided the 2000 series due to pricing/performance and thought they would wait for this gen but to their surprise this gen is really hard to get and the prices are even worse in most cases.

Next gen is going to be silly priced and anyone that thinks otherwise is in for a shock, next gen will start with £1K 4080 and £1.5k 3080ti and so on, the market has proved it can take it and customers willing to pay and of course they will make it again look like short supply even if mining is dead just to inflate prices and scalpers have learned that they can use that to their advantage so scalpers next gen are going to do same, look at the PS5 issue, some people have 100+ in their homes trying to sell them for 3-5 times the MSRP and selling them and keep buying any stock to make sure real buyers don't get them to keep the shortages going and keeping their prices up.

Nvidia and AMD next gen have a nice shock coming for us all with pricing and not a good one for sure unless it's a refresh only and not a major gen change.

silversurfer · 7 May 2021 at 18:10

Revenue growth is what counts more towards profits not margins on a smaller market. Main problem is there are more uses for chips now then the personal computer market can demand, cars and phones are far larger markets.

next gen will start

It'll start off frothy and we always look at the latest greatest performance but company wise and the foundations are about the 2nd tier of cards which is I guess 1660 right now, ideally not more then 200 is the actual meat of whatever plan they have. Again its the bulk that matters, the mainstream is where any large company is addressing long term profits

oguzsoso · 7 May 2021 at 18:19

silversurfer said:
Revenue growth is what counts more towards profits not margins on a smaller market. Main problem is there are more uses for chips now then the personal computer market can demand, cars and phones are far larger markets.

It'll start off frothy and we always look at the latest greatest performance but company wise and the foundations are about the 2nd tier of cards which is I guess 1660 right now, ideally not more then 200 is the actual meat of whatever plan they have. Again its the bulk that matters, the mainstream is where any large company is addressing long term profits

That doesn't explain why a 1060 or 1660 cannot even hold 40 fps at medium settings in Cyberpunk

It would also not explain how The Medium brings the GTX 1080 below 30 FPS at 1080p with Med-High settings

People will quickly flock to whatever availabile in the nextgen, 3060, 4060 and etc.

A 3060 easily triumps and decimates a 1660 by quite a large margin and i bet the difference would be even bigger with DLSS (which a casual gamer would not care about IQ much and take the increased fps boost)

gpuerrilla · 7 May 2021 at 18:46

The upgrade though can pan out to be a myth.

For example although the 3 at the beginning denotes a newer gen, there are examples of people thinking they have 'upgraded' but in reality it is a sidegrade. Especially as the prices of these cards have increased. I dread to think what the average outlay is on a 30 series card these days.

Calin Banc · 7 May 2021 at 18:56

Purgatory said:
Next gen is going to be silly priced and anyone that thinks otherwise is in for a shock, next gen will start with £1K 4080 and £1.5k 3080ti and so on, the market has proved it can take it and customers willing to pay ...

Although you may be right, is not a clear cut as Covid will fade away and not everyone will upgrade constantly.

Pottsey · 7 May 2021 at 19:10

Purgatory said:
So one week into May and no April 3080 Ti and now the joke is being played again May 26th by one site, May 31st or June 2nd by another site and June 3rd by another..... This joke has been running since January but at least now we have seen packaging of cards..

https://www.techradar.com/uk/news/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-...to-be-announced-on-may-31st-launching-in-june

https://www.pcgamer.com/uk/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ti-release-date-specs-performance-pricing/

Let's hope it doesn't end with .....

So who thinks they will get one this year for MSRP (whatever that will be, my guess is it will be $1150-$1200 MSRP for the FE if one comes out) and who thinks they will be 2x or 2.5x the MSRP for AIBS and scalped FE version if you can even get one this year.

Accept for along with the packaging pictures the RTX 3080Ti has been spotted on shelves being sold in shops that have broken the NDA and started selling it early. The same shops that also sold the 3080 early. So its a little more then a joke when people have, granted in very limited numbers been able to walk into a shop and buy a MSI Suprim X TI.