In the self interest of young people was my point.
Tories lost the 2019 election among working age adults
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Perhaps the struggle here is just one of language, but 'self interest' refers to the interests of oneself.
Don’t patronise me, you’re not clever enough….though I could have been clearer.
You could have. Because, to be honest, I still don't really know what you meant.
Oof. Shut the front door!
Your question is predicated on different self interests (a term used often for people, corporations, political parties, wealthy…etc, not just the individual….) your pondering being, perhaps without being clear, that should we fix this issue by preventing them voting anymore else what are you pondering about? You sit in the demographic that you feel should have more power to influence so have self interest at heart one might conclude…
It isn’t really that complex I feel but the above might help.
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The Tories have always got the Grey vote though, havent they?
Same with Brexit - racism and xeophobia won out there
Scottish Indy - young people more in favour of that as well.
Sheltered old rich people, pulling the stings since....forever?
Same with Brexit - racism and xeophobia won out there
Scottish Indy - young people more in favour of that as well.
Sheltered old rich people, pulling the stings since....forever?
I've already addressed the idea that I'm pushing for voting rights asymmetry with the old vs the young a few times. See below for one such
It's a discussion forum, you know. Not sure what you expect to find here other than opinions, really.
Bit impolite to just trash threads though.
Your arrogant assumption that I don't see it speaks volumes. Understand this: I know it and Labour are and have been just as bad if not worse - and then you should look at the SNP. Labour, Tories, SNP, the whole lot of them are dreadful. The Tories just happen to be less dreadful and less incompetent than the others.
I am happy with my contribution to this thread thanks.
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Yes it is a discussion forum, but reading this and most of the others, it all comes across as trying to one up the other person most of the time. Those Noel Edmonds Gotchas.
If there were more than 10,000 people that didn't vote then the result could be changed, the only reason the MP won was individual people went and voted.
Yeah right, my constituency is a tory stronghold, 25k votes ahead of second place.
They didnt matter so much when the life expectancy was only a few years after retiring. 80% may well have voted in that demographic but they were only 16% of the voting population. Soon they will be 38% so do make the biggest voting difference and will do more and more in the future.
Any party who wants to be in Govt has two choices.
1. persuade the young that its worth voting and then get them to vote for your party.
2. Set policies that appeals to the group who already 80% of them vote in order to secure their vote.
Option 2 is easier than option 1.
And hence why both parties will skew their manifestos to the elderly voting group now.
One of the sad things about it all, in option 1, is that there WAS a surge in youth vote, ignited by the student protests of a decade ago. Millenials forced the door, installed their guy (Corbyn), increased the youth turnout, substantially, for the first time in decades... And the whole movement was demonised by the press, much of the Labour party, and many supposedly 'centre-left' older people.
And now their efforts are being purged from Labour in the name of appealing to old people again. And the more it fails, and it's truly a failure, the more it's being used as a reason to move further away from youth.