Miami building collapse

StriderX said:
Not really surprising to me considering that it's Florida, but even disregarding the corruption aspect... it's not like the coast of Florida is long for this world if hurricane season keeps getting more vicious.
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Paleotempestological (now there’s a word to conjure with), research suggests that hurricanes have been hitting both coasts of Florida since at least 2000 B.C.
Most of the coast is still standing so it suggests that Florida can take it.
I’ve been there for two hurricanes, and all I noticed were trash cans blowing down the street, and some power cables down.
I’d hate to be there for a real bad one.
 
As it was one wing of an L or T shaped structure, I would expect that the ground loading at the intersection was much higher than elsewhere possibly causing failure. Also on a cursory inspection of the pictures there did not seem to be much attachment between the structures laterally therefore allowing one to completely collapse and the remainder still stand.

All to be confirmed of course but America was identified to have poor codes on progressive collapse of structures following the twin towers.
 
Jean-F said:
Paleotempestological (now there’s a word to conjure with), research suggests that hurricanes have been hitting both coasts of Florida since at least 2000 B.C.
Most of the coast is still standing so it suggests that Florida can take it.
I’ve been there for two hurricanes, and all I noticed were trash cans blowing down the street, and some power cables down.
I’d hate to be there for a real bad one.
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Well I don't expect the landmass to disappear if that's what you're implying?

Infrastructure and people though...
 
Colonel_Klinck said:
You have to wonder what local government are doing as reports say it was in poor state of repair. Making sure such buildings are safe to live in is a part of what tax payers pay government to do.

I'll be amazed if they find many people alive from the way it collapsed. RIP.
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The US has a huge problem with infrastructure maintenance generally.

Look up the figures for the amount of lead piping in domestic supply for an example.
 
potatolord said:
The US has a huge problem with infrastructure maintenance generally.

Look up the figures for the amount of lead piping in domestic supply for an example.
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Like that i40 bridge over the Mississippi, crazy to think a huge crack had been missed by inspections.

 
Snubber said:
Absolutely horrific. RIP

Almost looks like explosives took out the key loadbearing elements at low level leading to instant, catastrophic collapse. Florida suffers from sinkholes which are often difficult to identify until its too late, one possible explanation perhaps.
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it was known the building was sinking and needed reinforcement according to an article I read.

pretty disgusting.
small docu on americas crumbling infastructure

America has 91,000 dams btw and I bet a lot of them are ready to pop and wipe loads of people out
 
StriderX said:
Well I don't expect the landmass to disappear if that's what you're implying?



Infrastructure and people though...
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No I wasn’t implying that, but I thought that you were in your post that I quoted, but on re-reading it you meant the infrastructure and people, sorry.
200sols said:
@Jean-F You do realise things can get worse, right?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-54902068
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Yes I do, but if Florida’s coastline looks like it does now after 4000 years of Hurricanes, it might not vanish soon.
 
This is pretty horrific, doesn't bear thinking about. One moment, you're sitting watching repeats of Dallas and ten seconds later, the building has collapsed and you've been squashed as flat as a pancake. Surely anyone who was in their apartments would have simply been crushed to death pretty much instantly.
 
I still see it as peculiar that one leg of a tee or ell shaped building should fail after many years and the other survive in reasonable condition.

Why no horizontal ties between the buildings, or continuity reinforcing?
Were the foundations different?

So many questions to be addressed.
 
Maybe it wasn't up to code? The US, despite its litigation culture, doesn't seem to be as well regulated re: some of this stuff vs the UK. Plus plenty of corruption in places, few decades ago you'd not build anything major in NYC without mafia involvement, perhaps applicable to parts of Florida too?

Colonel_Klinck said:
Its ridiculous that infrastructure spending is a political football. Spend the money ffs.
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That's probably more applicable to bridges etc.. than privately owned buildings though.
 
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