handbrake is called e-brake?

Just more ***** to go wrong. If your brakes fail you could still stop a car with the handbrake. Can you still do that with this new button brake?
 
Thats a point, the "handbrake" in my GS300 is foot operated, and yet I still call it a handbrake. :p

I guess its actually a parking brake, in British Engrish.
 
LeeUK said:
Just more ***** to go wrong. If your brakes fail you could still stop a car with the handbrake. Can you still do that with this new button brake?
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Depends if you hog the right lane with ditchfinders on or not
 
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You would also think that many would understand how to use one in the UK. I have never heard of it being a button you pr
LeeUK said:
Just more ***** to go wrong. If your brakes fail you could still stop a car with the handbrake. Can you still do that with this new button brake?
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Yes and its not a button either but a switch you pull. Its an argument that's pretty academic anyway as the majority of drivers seem unable to use a manual one these days, god knows who taught them to drive...
 
JohnG7 said:
Probably as you can still use it if your brakes fail (if still using a cable).
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Electric hand brakes can still be used as a last ditch emergency brake as they use a mechanical actuator to apply the brake shoes rather than hydraulics. IIRC the toggle on a Insignia had to be operated 3 times in quick succession to activate the emergency function.

Though with modern cars, you've got to be having a really very bad day if you lose all hydraulic function with dual / triple circuit brakes.
 
Alibaba99 said:
Electric hand brakes can still be used as a last ditch emergency brake as they use a mechanical actuator to apply the brake shoes rather than hydraulics. IIRC the toggle on a Insignia had to be operated 3 times in quick succession to activate the emergency function.

Though with modern cars, you've got to be having a really very bad day if you lose all hydraulic function with dual / triple circuit brakes.
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But the button is an electronic switch. It's still brake by wire, so more likely to fail than the pedal which can still be pressed if you lose power :p
 
Not really, more cars now also have electric assist rather than vacuum. Lossof hydraulic line pressure is the situation either system is there as a backup for.

doesn’t stop you making stuff up though hey Nasher.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Not really, more cars now also have electric assist rather than vacuum. Lossof hydraulic line pressure is the situation either system is there as a backup for.

doesn’t stop you making stuff up though hey Nasher.
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Lol the switch is just a switch with a plug on the back like every other switch in the car. There is no direct physical link to the brake, without power it does nothing. In fact without power you can't even release the ******* thing to move the car.
 
Why would you want to move a car with no power? :confused:

honestly it’s just tripe that comes out your mouth. No one needs a smartypants inventing stuff.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
Why would you want to move a car with no power? :confused:

honestly it’s just tripe that comes out your mouth. No one needs a smartypants inventing stuff.
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Tbf it is pretty short sighted to be baffled as to why folk would want to move cars with no power.
 
Jonnycoupe said:
So you’ll want a new battery then.
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Which isn't always to hand. Is it? I mean I don't know about you but I don't carry one around in my back pocket.
A new battery doesn't solve the short term problem of a car being stuck in a dangerous or inconvenient location.

Less of that please
 
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How else would a car run out of power AFTER applying the brake in a safe parking space.

I’ve been insulted by better people than you so no skin off my nose.
 
Nasher said:
But the button is an electronic switch. It's still brake by wire, so more likely to fail than the pedal which can still be pressed if you lose power :p
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i know on the renault we owned it was common for the handbrake or e brake etc to fail and the electronic unit siezed up . the cables from the electronic unit had to be manually freed to release the brakes so yes agreed the button supplys power to the motor that operates cables to put the handbrake on , this goes faulty requiring the motor and cables to be operated manually i think we had a overide in the boot.
 
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