Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

physichull · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:12

shankly1985 said:
Biden skipping the China question has me worried.

Yes and no.

While it didn't look good on camera, it may have been wise given what may be going on behind the scenes politically that we just don't know about.

do_ron_ron · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:12

LabR@t said:
The Americans voting that fool into power are to blame.

Weak, weak, weak

The best thing the Americans have done in a decade. We however are still stuck with the serial liar in No 10

NickK · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:13

LabR@t said:
The US has never been so weak and the world sees it

I suspect they're being world diplomatic - recognising they are nolonger the only 'superpower' when the Chinese are attempting to overtake them. Russia is more of a challenge and it would take a world war or a long time sanction hit to tackle them. However I suspect a weak russia would be an invite for the Chinese to invade.

Entai · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:13

Firestar_3x said:
Bit risky rolling armor down a main road into another country, the other route is the same place Germany got bogged down in WW2?

Chernobyl has been selected because it is isolated and fairly easy going.

More likely it is easy to weaponise against western Europe.

An "accident" at chernobyl, at this time of year (original disaster was april) when the prevailing winds are towards the west and north of Ukraine,, would irradiate a lot of western Europe as it did before.

Parts of Cumbria, Scotland and Northern Ireland were impacted, and North Wales was hardest hit, with sheep in Wales still failing radioactive tests 10 years after the accident in 1996.

The last restrictions on the movement and sale of sheep in the UK were lifted in 2012, 26 years after the meltdown.

do_ron_ron · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:14

Malevolence said:
Have you forget that the mad **** has already attacked a NATO member by deploying a nerve agent on the streets of the UK and murdering an innocent UK citizen?

That was not an attack on a NATO member but a dissadent in a NATO country. Big difference.

DarrenM343 · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:14

LabR@t said:
The Americans voting that fool into power are to blame.

Weak, weak, weak

Who Biden? Sure, they could have surely got someone much younger than Biden but I find him likable. Besides, it's the people behind him that do the hard graft.
Trump's final days...well, we saw enough there to know he should never have been the leader of the USA.There was probably a mutual respect between him and his Russian counterpart - two similar characters. Trump the wannabe dictator who tried to overthrow a democractic election...

Maybe Trump has contributed to this problem, with his undermining of Nato etc and maybe the reasons why the American people put him in power too. America's image was in decline on the world stage under Trump.

Stelly · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:15

Entai said:
More likely it is easy to weaponise against western Europe.

An "accident" at chernobyl, at this time of year (original disaster was april) when the prevailing winds are towards the west and north of Ukraine,, would irradiate a lot of western Europe as it did before.

Parts of Cumbria, Scotland and Northern Ireland were impacted, and North Wales was hardest hit, with sheep in Wales still failing radioactive tests 10 years after the accident in 1996.

The last restrictions on the movement and sale of sheep in the UK were lifted in 2012, 26 years after the meltdown.

That would cause a response from Western Europe as if it had been attacked... I dont think that will happen

Tombstone · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:15

do_ron_ron said:
The best thing the Americans have done in a decade. We however are still stuck with the serial liar in No 10

Which despite his failings is probably still better than if we had put Corbyn in instead

Kenai · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:15

Entai said:
More likely it is easy to weaponise against western Europe.

An "accident" at chernobyl, at this time of year (original disaster was april) when the prevailing winds are towards the west and north of Ukraine,, would irradiate a lot of western Europe as it did before.

Parts of Cumbria, Scotland and Northern Ireland were impacted, and North Wales was hardest hit, with sheep in Wales still failing radioactive tests 10 years after the accident in 1996.

The last restrictions on the movement and sale of sheep in the UK were lifted in 2012, 26 years after the meltdown.

Calm down, they're not capturing Chernobyl to try and irradiate half the continent - they've invaded to occupy the country, they won't be turning it into a radioactive wasteland on purpose.

Bassmansam · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:16

d_brennen said:
All these people dying for imaginary lines on the ground.

Can we just stop the world, it's broken

its not broken, its part of human nature unfortunately.

omnomnom · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:16

do_ron_ron said:
That was not an attack on a NATO member but a dissadent in a NATO country. Big difference.

Oh I dunno. Is it any different to a suicide bomb?

Malevolence · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:16

do_ron_ron said:
That was not an attack on a NATO member but a dissadent in a NAYO country. Big difference.

Dawn Sturgess was an innocent UK citizen, she was not a dissident. And what about the serving police officer whose life is now ruined? Was he also a dissident too?

delta0 · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:17

The night could get interesting for Ukraine. Russia can’t operate well at night so some of the western surveillance drones and tech is going to help with offensives. Russia still haven’t taken any cities yet. This can’t be going very well for them now.

Entai · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:18

Stelly said:
That would cause a response from Western Europe as if it had been attacked... I dont think that will happen

Not a chance it would.

The west are to weak, and basically scared, of Putin and Russia to do anything.

If the west had any semblance of strength and guts, they would have put a million troops inro Ukraine months ago to tell Putin stay out.

The Running Man · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:19

delta0 said:
The night could get interesting for Ukraine. Russia can’t operate well at night so some of the western surveillance drones and tech is going to help with offensives. Russia still haven’t taken any cities yet. This can’t be going very well for them now.

Hmm I'm not sure about that.

I think too many of the major ukrainian defensive infrastructure has been damaged.

Remember Russia has had eyes on all of the airfields, Sam sites etc for months if not longer and basically smashed them all in the initial salvo leaving only what you now see.

Entai · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:20

Kenai said:
Calm down, they're not capturing Chernobyl to try and irradiate half the continent - they've invaded to occupy the country, they won't be turning it into a radioactive wasteland on purpose.

You really give Putin that amount of intelligence ?

Interesting.

do_ron_ron · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:20

Tombstone said:
Which despite his failings is probably still better than if we had put Corbyn in instead

You would neber know as it is just speculation.

Stelly · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:20

Entai said:
Not a chance it would.

The west are to weak, and basically scared, of Putin and Russia to do anything.

If the west had any semblance of strength and guts, they would have put a million troops inro Ukraine months ago to tell Putin stay out.

There is a difference between invading Ukraine and irradiating Western Europe with what is basically a massive dirty bomb

lookitsjonno · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:20

RAF Typhoon heading over Poland from Connongsby

Tombstone · 24 Feb 2022 at 19:20

do_ron_ron said:
You would neber know as it is just speculation.

Hence why I said probably