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I'm wondering whether some back door deal has been done with China that means EU and Nato can send arms to Ukraine? Otherwise, its a bold move.
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Not as bold as invading a country.
Countries providing "aid" to a country they support is pretty normal. Especially when it is a sovereign state under invasion. Russia knows what they are doing is wrong, what is there argument going to be?
Random fact but Germany actually fought alongside America in WW2 in a couple of battles, in the dying days the the regular German army (Wehrmacht) and the Nazi army (the SS) had pretty much had enough of each other and started fighting in a number of battles. The most famous one was the siege of castle Itter where the Americans helped the German/Austrian army defend a POW camp and it's prisoners from an SS army sent to wipe them all out, this was also the only occasion in history where American forces defended a castle against an attacking force.
He can't press the buttons, it requires more than him to progress through the launch sequence. He can give the order but from all reports, the orders seem to be lost in the system on purpose quite often.. a bit like the UK's civil service.
It doesn't really, people keep on making that mistake but it's got a massive military on paper, in terms of combat-ready units they're mostly all either in Ukraine or on on the border.
It's not NATO stock per se but from member countries. I don't think that makes any sense as a plan, weaken the west to do what? We can manufacture more weapons, IIRC the UK's initial order of NLAWS was like 20k or so, we've sent circa 2k to Ukraine.
Russia still has a "democratic" process in place. So there is a chain of command and re-elections.
It isn't quite a kingdom.
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Yer but you only need to read the Rittenhouse thread to see how our fellow right wingers apply the self defence argument
I never knew that and thought I'd read up quite a lot on WW2! Interesting.
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THe line is weapons. Give food sure, medical help etc. But not weapons.
Yes they could give weapons in the past, but not now.
Eh? Many western countries are supplying Ukraine too.
I mean they are giving them weapons, but they'll never give them the strategically important stuff.
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I wouldnt call being scared of the worst possible warfare humanity has ever seen "chicken ****"
I feel as bad as anyone that our hands are tied, but the one thing nobody wants is the kind of escalation that would ensue if we started sending troops because a nato-russia war doesnt stay conventional.
Problem is Putin's party pretty much follow his lead, so much so that many forget he wasn't even in charge of Russia between 2008-2012 only calling the shots from the shadows, he served his maximum two terms as president and left office in 2008 only to get elected again in 2012 because the term limit had been removed and because his more popular successor chose not to stand for re-election.
I mean they have made it to France. A safe country.
Yer but you only need to read the Rittenhouse thread to see how our fellow right wingers apply the self defence argument
Attacking someone is an escalation.
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When it suddenly dawned on him that Russia getting sanctioned into the dark ages will cost Turkey a hell of a lot of money and quite possibly cause it's already dodgy financial situation to spiral out of control and collapse.
Am surprised they still have power stations to run all them lights
would have expected the power stations to been one the main targets the russians would have taken out..
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