Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Entai said:
Of course i realise he is not president.

That is exactly the point i am making, about how much chance there is of the UK getting nuked at any point this year.

Trump is not president so it is imposdible for him to launch any nukes at anyone.

The exact same possibility of Putin targeting the UK at any point this year.

Cannot believe i really had to explain that to you. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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You could also get run over by a car tomorrow and die, perhaps go worry about that instead?
 
Jono8 said:
Better that, than to appease Russia and their absurd demands of other sovereign nations.

What if Russia's demand were that the UK gives up their military?
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For me personally, I would be okay with NATO pledging not to accept Ukraine. However, if Russia were to demand UK removes nukes or give up their military then I would be fore a military confrontation over that.
 
Purgatory said:
Our foreign secretary of all people.
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Not to dilute the rest of your point but that is the rhetoric the Russians have been using throughout - which for some reason isn't being well recognised - the increasing iterations of "you made us do it".

Hence why I could only facepalm when people were talking of an off ramp, etc.
 
This is a time to show the Russians that NATO is got defense. I personally think no attack will highlight it.
France and UK will never give up the nukes.
But I do think that the space race has started.
 
pimper said:
This is something i've been meaning to ask for a long time.. Nuclear warheads as the name suggests has a payload that produces an explosion with nuclear fallout etc. due to its fission reaction. If a missile were to intercept an ICBM in flight or MIRVs if they've split already, wouldn't the resultant contact between the two set off the payload creating the fission reaction and well basically an Nuclear explosion? granted just a lot higher into the atmosphere than an airburst or surface blast.
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Modern nuclear warheads are usually generally spherical; in the centre of this ball is the fuel for the fusion explosion and this is surronded by a hollow ball of nuclear fuel for the fission reaction ((usually plutonium) and this ball is surrounded by a ball of explosive. The detenation of the explosive crushes the ball of plutonium - this brings it to critical mass and a fission explosion takes place - this explosion compresses the fusion fuel to the point that fusion occurs and the immense heat and preasure then further fuels the fission of any remaining plutonium.

The detenation of the initial explosive must occur perfectly - it just won't work if it is detonated by a collision, fire or some unintended cause.

Fusion weapons are a huge step forward from fission only - more powerful, smaller, lighter, need less nuclear fuel, easier to package - and produce less fallout than you might think.

Obviously there's more to it than that, but the basics.
 
413x said:
It's certainly a weird feeling. First time I've ever thought seriously 'this could be it' and there's nothing I can do.

It's genuinely not as much fear as regret I didn't do more before. The cliche time is precious! This was going to be the first year of nice etc. Holiday with house bought.

Even having those thoughts means there is genuinely a part of me that believes this could happen.

On plus side. If survive it I think I will live more for the moment. Rather than constantly trying to save for the future.


Gives an iota of a thought of what it's like living in constant fear or what Ukrainians are going through. Food for thought.
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You won't want to survive!. If you need life on earth would never be the same again.
 
Mrwong said:
This is a time to show the Russians that NATO is got defense. I personally think no attack will highlight it.
France and UK will never give up the nukes.
But I do think that the space race has started.
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Pretty sure the space race started back in the 1950s. Or even in the 40s if you count Operation Paperclip.
 
Purgatory said:
This is the UK Government at its best.
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preti saying there was a risk of russian agents infiltrating the uk, as ukraine refugees was worthy of a Trussball,
but boris squirming on the renaging on the minsk agreement, question, also in the top ten - and, these morons got a pay rise.
 
robfosters said:
Post this in the speakers corner thread. This is about a tragic war, not a Tory bashing thread
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Not about the Tories about how the government we live under and how they are representing the UK people, I don't give a damn about politics and their stupid parties.. It's about doing the right things as other governments have done around the world. It is regarding the Ukraine situation the points made and the safety of the world situation we are all now in. Clearly no compassion anymore for people in need, even the reporter is fuming if you watched the report in the first tweet.
 
Purgatory said:
Not about the Tories about how the government we live under and how they are representing the UK people, I don't give a damn about politics and their stupid parties.. It's about doing the right things as other governments have done around the world. It is regarding the Ukraine situation the points made and the safety of the world situation we are all now in. Clearly no compassion anymore for people in need, even the reporter is fuming if you watched the report in the first tweet.
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We have lead the world in most of the reactions to this war, why are you focusing on the refuge situation seemingly exclusively?
 
Entai said:
Cannot believe i really had to explain that to you. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
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Because everything you said is wrong, it's impossible for Trump to launch but it isn't impossible for Putin to launch therefor everything you said was wrong. Even if the chance of Putin launching is incredibly minute it is still greater than the possibility of Trump doing so. Your argument was stupid.
 
Nerusy said:
Well actually there were discussions. Russia wanted security guarantees and NATO replied that a countries right to choose their own alliances is sacred. For Russia, Ukraine in NATO is existential threat.
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It wasn't discussions, it was Russia deciding the future of Ukraine for them, Ukraine can decide their own future.

There was no way Ukraine was ever a danger to Russia, and you know what, if they started something with Russia I doubt they'd be getting support like they are now.

Russia have proven again and again that they will bully and lie to get what they want, they've said so much rubbish it feels at times like they're playing the opposite game, where what they say and do are complete 180 degree turns from each other.

This is just a war of aggression where there will be no winners, and even if Putin succeeds in defeating Ukraine, he will still lose, on the world stage they've just become even more of a joke.

There's lots of verifiable facts and evidence that counters what Russia say is going on.
 
Pigeon_Killer said:
Don't worry, plenty of other ***** have used this thread to force their political opinion on others while Ukrainian's get slaughtered by Russia.
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I have no political side just ashamed by what is being done in all our names. I'm not political and honestly my opinion of politics is they are all just as bad as each other when it suits them. Back on topic this horrible war. :(
 
Purgatory said:
Not about the Tories about how the government we live under and how they are representing the UK people, I don't give a damn about politics and their stupid parties.. It's about doing the right things as other governments have done around the world. It is regarding the Ukraine situation the points made and the safety of the world situation we are all now in. Clearly no compassion anymore for people in need, even the reporter is fuming if you watched the report in the first tweet.
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Tory bashing.. how quaint
 
Nerusy said:
For me personally, I would be okay with NATO pledging not to accept Ukraine. However, if Russia were to demand UK removes nukes or give up their military then I would be fore a military confrontation over that.
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I don't really think it's been about that, personally. Just one of the BS excuses/reasons coming out of Russia. They've come out with a lot more BS reasons since too.

Maybe the real reason is simply an aging Dictator, with his people in very bad social mood, fearing his position is under threat, maybe feeling hasn't achieved that much for Russia....other than corruption etc. Put the country to war, rebuild USSR, and then hopefully reap the rewards of success, including happier people. Don't think that's going to work out somehow....and lets hope Russians see the reality and act on it because that's the best thing Russians could do is to overthrow him & regime & cronies and free themselves for a better future
 
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