Would need to remove more than just Putin, the next in line don't appear much different and a complete change doesn't seem likely.
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Would need to remove more than just Putin, the next in line don't appear much different and a complete change doesn't seem likely.
If it ever got that bad in Russia, I'd imagine the same sort of arrangement we have with North Korea - they get some necessary food and humanitarian aid in exchange for not testing any more nukes or whatever. If their government does something they've been told not to then the aid stops for a while.
There's not really a good alternative.
Sucks for the people subject to the repressive government, but the alternatives are either enabling their continued bad behaviour, or engaging in a devastating war with political consequences which would rock the world.
I'm not sure it ever will get that desperate for Russia though, unless they do something that severely annoys China.
Punishing the people of Germany didn't work out well after WW1.
The west may not be able to interfere militarily but we could play Russia at some of its own game with cyber attacks. I believe Anonymous managed to take over a Russian TV network for a time, more actions like that where they broadcast the real damage the Russian military is inflicting on Ukraine could help cast doubts on what state tv is telling them.
How will they control 11 million population of Moscow going nuts say 5 million of them stormed government buildings?
They are talking about martial law now so they are worried of this happening.
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Stopping sanctions is essentially a free pass to invade the next "bit of Russia" he fancies. The sanctions should stay indefinitely to limit military build up or until a less blood thirsty leadership comes to the fore.
probably millions of Russians will die before putins gone.
whether it's from economic sanctions/starvation or a civil war.
There's no way the oligarchs and putin go quietly, they probably know if putin goes they are probably dead men walking
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https://twitter.com/lapatina_/status/1499012600826322946?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1499012600826322946|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https://www.redditmedia.com/mediaembed/liveupdate/18hnzysb1elcs/LiveUpdate_fd631224-9a30-11ec-9c24-4677e69e76de/0
This is quite amazing. Their country is being bulldozed by these guys, yet the people tend to them and provide food. We really could learn a lot about compassion from these people. We are literally making it illegal to seek asylum, and these people are sharing what little they have with the invading force.
I've been to Ukraine, and I have family there (Unfortunately, they are estranged and I have no way of contacting them), and the people are incredibly kind and hospitable. It's cliche, but true.
https://twitter.com/lapatina_/status/1499012600826322946?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1499012600826322946|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https://www.redditmedia.com/mediaembed/liveupdate/18hnzysb1elcs/LiveUpdate_fd631224-9a30-11ec-9c24-4677e69e76de/0
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This is quite amazing. Their country is being bulldozed by these guys, yet the people tend to them and provide food. We really could learn a lot about compassion from these people. We are literally making it illegal to seek asylum, and these people are sharing what little they have with the invading force.
I've been to Ukraine, and I have family there (Unfortunately, they are estranged and I have no way of contacting them), and the people are incredibly kind and hospitable. It's cliche, but true.
https://twitter.com/lapatina_/status/1499012600826322946?ref_src=twsrc^tfw|twcamp^tweetembed|twterm^1499012600826322946|twgr^|twcon^s1_c10&ref_url=https://www.redditmedia.com/mediaembed/liveupdate/18hnzysb1elcs/LiveUpdate_fd631224-9a30-11ec-9c24-4677e69e76de/0
Edit - How the hell do you embed?!
What is happening to the jets they were going to sent? Without air support and ground to air defence Ukraine is screwed. Is there any plans to have air support and defence? My feeling now is just a matter of time till the rusky husky lusky completely dominate what they want.
depends what happens when inflation really kicks in surely?
a massive amount of people will probably find themselves with no money, no jobs and reliant totally on the state to distribute food and supplies.
I bet there's already empty shelves happening from panic buying
looks like everyone changed their minds or they do it secretly somehow and hope Putin doesn't notice
Because he was forced into action in Ukraine as threats were not sufficient to get the concessions and agreements he wanted. Therefore he escalated to direct action, Luhansk and Donetsk are merely a convenient 'reason' for his 'necessary' invasion of Ukraine. If they government wouldn't comply under direct threat then direct action was necessary and this was/is being sought by way of regime change.
He would have then got the government of Ukraine to agree to his demands, will have got the added buffer of Luhansk, Donetsk and that would have been it. This was never some precursor for attacking NATO or anyone else, but simply yo protect the Russian racket. He needs buffer countries and borders to do so, can't have Russian population looking at comparative prosperity and democratic nirvana across direct borders or him and the Russian overlords would be finished. The uprising and enlightenment that was being realised in Ukraine is what they feared, not NATO which is simply a vehicle for his 'the enemy' propaganda.
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i must admit, whilst i'm aware of the term "thermobaric" as it applies to munitions, this past week is the first time i've heard of them being called vacumn bombs.
unless it's maybe a case that a translator perhaps used it as a direct translation (maybe not knowing english term and just translating directly) and the media picked up on it and ran with it?
I know what you mean but he has enough that it doesn't really matter who has more. It's down to who is willing to use them and strikes first.
Incredible how this *********** has the courage to say this:
World War Three would be ‘nuclear and destructive’, warns Russia’s foreign minister Sergei Lavrov
Does he think he’s going to live or anyone in the world with a ww3 based on nuclear weapons?
World War Three would be ‘nuclear and destructive’, warns Russia’s foreign minister Sergei Lavrov
Does he think he’s going to live or anyone in the world with a ww3 based on nuclear weapons?
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Exactly this. A prospering Ukraine becoming Westernised and having a better quality of living than Russia would have been a major threat.
Vlad picked up the phone and said no, Its a step too far
Russia wont keep blowing planes out the sky forever while other countries can give them a supply of replacements unchallenged.
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I mean, both the US & Russia are in possession of enough nukes to end the world a couple of times over, each. There comes a point where having more than the other guy becomes a bit pointless.
There are no winners here, from young Ukranians dying and losing their country, to young Russians dying and seeing their economy implode, even to people here seeing their cost of living go through the roof.
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