Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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kitfit1 said:
@Rroff was talking about history and our own ABF during WW2, and he is right, clearly the Russian's have learn't nothing from it.
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That wasn't what I was asking about, rather I was asking about the part I quoted, if you skip back in the convo you'll see the original tweets too.

Rroff said:
In many cases they only appear to have been deployed with the lighter range of gear that kind of force would use and/or due to not owning the air space their heavier equipment didn't make it in.
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I thought I'd explained that in this post below? There is footage of their armour being destroyed too - BMDs etc.. not all units in the VDV are completely mechanised, some are only partly and are mostly light (airborne) infantry. That isn't necessarily an issue in and of itself (our own airborne forces don't have an armoured component/IFVs organic to them), there is still a role for light infantry but that they weren't supported is a big problem.

dowie said:
Well, that's how airborne units work, they're VDV, their vehicles need to be light enough to be transportable and capable of being dropped, all their units have some light armoured vehicles though some are only partly mechanized and are mostly light (airborne) infantry. They were the guys who tried the helicopter assault on day 1.

It's not so much that they were deployed with light equipment, there is a role for light infantry in general, but rather they were largely unsupported and in various instances (not just the attack on Hostomel airfield) they've ended up being cut off. Possibly one of the issues is that they're not just a corps or regiment within the Russian army but they're a separate branch of the armed forces entirely (sort of how the USMC is in the US)... Maybe the Russians aren't so great at coordinating different services/working together etc..
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delta0 said:
This is going to be the quickest way to his downfall. The people turning against him will be unstoppable.
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It's not clear though what the public mood is in Russia, Putin did have broad support recently, you could still have protests like this with say only 30% opposing the war and a bunch more ambivalent about it, so seeing some crowds of protestors doesn't give a good indication of where public mood in Russia currently is.
 
dowie said:
It's not clear though what the public mood is in Russia, Putin did have broad support recently, you could still have protests like this with say only 30% opposing the war and a bunch more ambivalent about it, so seeing some crowds of protestors doesn't give a good indication of where public mood in Russia currently is.
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I do wonder how much of the war they are actually seeing
 
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