Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Purgatory said:

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She has that really obviously fake "I'm important and know what I'm doing" demeanour to her, that doesn't fool anyone with two brain cells to put together.

Literally every time I watch her do anything, I cringe really hard. It's horrible.
 
Purgatory said:
From your article link above :-

However, it is extremely difficult to prove intent to commit war crimes. So difficult, that only six people have been convicted by the ICC and served sentences.


https://theconversation.com/is-inte...sion-in-ukraine-no-but-its-complicated-177905


Can Putin be prosecuted for crimes?
There is also international criminal law. Putin has committed the crime of aggression by launching an illegal war, and any Russian war crimes on Ukrainian territory are within the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court (ICC).

But Putin will not stand trial before the ICC for aggression, due to the court’s narrow jurisdiction.

Uniquely, the aggressor state and the victim of its actions must both accept the Rome Statute (the treaty that established the court) and its jurisdiction over aggression. While Ukraine has accepted the ICC’s jurisdiction, Russia is a not party to the Rome Statute.

So, the ICC has no jurisdiction over Russian aggression without the Security Council referring Russia to the court as a non-party. And, of course, Russia can veto this action as a permanent member of the council.

While the ICC also has jurisdiction over war crimes, tying a president to the crimes of foot soldiers is complex and not something the court has ever succeeded in doing.


This is why she has no clue what she is talking about. So Truss was wrong and he even tried to explain that to her at each point. As you see from the video.
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We've seen some poor occupants of the Foreign Office of late with Johnson and Raab but I really think Truss is the worst - its not just that she hasn't a clue its her ability to try and brazen it out which is unparallelled by anyone I've ever seen perhaps save for Jay in The Inbetweeners

Jono8 said:
She has that really obviously fake "I'm important and know what I'm doing" demeanour to her, that doesn't fool anyone with two brain cells to put together.

Literally every time I watch her do anything, I cringe really hard. It's horrible.
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Its horrendous, this woman (and Boris) and the two most senior representatives of this country on the world stage, how did we sink so low
 
Dis86 said:
Well that doesn't add up. They've been claiming 2 vessels destroyed for some time, we know yesterday they were then claiming a further significant vessel was destroyed.
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I imagine there is a lag in the numbers and all of them are estimates.
 
Dis86 said:
Well that doesn't add up. They've been claiming 2 vessels destroyed for some time, we know yesterday they were then claiming a further significant vessel was destroyed.
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We saw it caught fire, don't believe there's been confirmation it was completely destroyed unless I've missed it?
 
Rroff said:
I find the communications problems, especially secure ones, Russia are having a little puzzling - albeit military comms even in the best conditions are often less than ideal. In the build up they spent a good week setting up a large scale R-4xx based secure link network and mobile communication/command units, etc.

Some say it is because the first units were told it was training and so didn't bother to bring encryption keys/modules/equipment but I don't really buy that - at least in my experience that isn't left to individual troops to decide on at an overall level.
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We have no idea of the long range ELINT/ECM capability that NATO has in the region. Plus we have no idea what ECM tools and training may have been supplied to forward units of the Ukrainian Army.
 
Dis86 said:
The words yesterday were that it had sunk
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The reports I read said it had been "hit" but that the extent of the damage was unknown, infact the reports werent even entirely sure that it was the Bykov. I did see a Ukrainian press which said it had been "destroyed" but then the Ukrainian press would say that wouldnt they. All I can take as actual fact from this currently is that something was hit, what and how much, is still at question based on current info
 
Purgatory said:
From your article link above :-

However, it is extremely difficult to prove intent to commit war crimes. So difficult, that only six people have been convicted by the ICC and served sentences.


https://theconversation.com/is-inte...sion-in-ukraine-no-but-its-complicated-177905


Can Putin be prosecuted for crimes?
There is also international criminal law. Putin has committed the crime of aggression by launching an illegal war, and any Russian war crimes on Ukrainian territory are within the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court (ICC).

But Putin will not stand trial before the ICC for aggression, due to the court’s narrow jurisdiction.

Uniquely, the aggressor state and the victim of its actions must both accept the Rome Statute (the treaty that established the court) and its jurisdiction over aggression. While Ukraine has accepted the ICC’s jurisdiction, Russia is a not party to the Rome Statute.

So, the ICC has no jurisdiction over Russian aggression without the Security Council referring Russia to the court as a non-party. And, of course, Russia can veto this action as a permanent member of the council.

While the ICC also has jurisdiction over war crimes, tying a president to the crimes of foot soldiers is complex and not something the court has ever succeeded in doing.


This is why she has no clue what she is talking about. So Truss was wrong and he even tried to explain that to her at each point. As you see from the video.
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And ALL of your highlighted stuff is totally irrelevant once Putin is not in power and faces the court as an individual.

The FACT remains the ICC do have jurisdiction, if they have zero jurisdiction or power why investigate?

Answer that.

Whether they actually prosecute is a very different matter.
 
Tesla said:
“Russia v Ukraine? Completed it mate”
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'I Just Can't Stand By': American Veterans Join the Fight in Ukraine
All across the United States, small groups of military veterans are gathering, planning and getting passports in order. After years of serving in smoldering occupations, trying to spread democracy in places that had only a tepid interest in it, many are hungry for what they see as a righteous fight to defend freedom against an autocratic aggressor with a conventional and target-rich army.
“It’s a conflict that has a clear good and bad side, and maybe that stands apart from other recent conflicts,” said David Ribardo, a former Army officer who now owns a property management business in Allentown, Pennsylvania. “A lot of us are watching what is happening and just want to grab a rifle and go over there.”
 
Entai said:
And ALL of your highlighted stuff is totally irrelevant once Putin is not in power and faces the court as an individual.

The FACT remains the ICC do have jurisdiction, if they have zero jurisdiction or power why investigate?

Answer that.

Whether they actually prosecute is a very different matter.
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He will be dead if not in power, so the ICC is a waste of time against him and as stated they have no jurisdiction, they can take evidence but can never use it against him, they are basically taking down history nothing else they can do with it. That is the facts of this. I don't have more time to explain this but do some reading on the ICC and what powers they really have. You will find some shocking facts that Truss clearly has not read.
 
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