Fuel price discussion thread (was ‘chaos’)

Greebo said:
From april you have to run the generator on white diesel not red so that must sink a hole in your maths?

Anyway unlikely to be viable even on red. Even small 8kw diesel generators use up to 3 litres per hour in fuel. So thats £2.40 on red or £4.77 on white diesel.

On red if you were using the full 8kWh then it would only be 30p per kWh. If you have to use white diesel then its 59p per kWh.

If you arent running at max usage the figures are even worse. Supply 2kWh of electric for an house on an 8kWh generator still uses a litre of fuel so either 80p or £1.59 so 40p per kWh or 80p per kWh.

Best to just stay on grid. Maybe viable as a "backup" if you have solar panels and a wind generator. Potentially cheaper then if you ignore the initial investment costs.
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Thanks, I have a pal who maintained it was potentially a lot cheaper to run a 3 phase generator on red during the day and off the grid at night, but he never cited any figures. I'll probably pass on anything bigger than the existing 6 kW emergency single phase jobby and get her indoors looking at thermals rather than the usual far too young for her designer tat ;) At my age ignoring investment costs sends shudders down my pension plan! Thanks again, appreciated.
 
CaptainRAVE said:
As a petrol head the extra cost is worth every penny :p
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But that also depends on what engine and year of the car also city/travel use, my old Peugeot GT2008 1.2 Puretech was Official MPG 57.6 mpg but Real MPG Avg 44.0 mpg.
 
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Creeping up to 1.70-1.80 my way. Not good news as I drive around 600 miles a week. I get a bones towards my travelling, but it isn't linked to cost per litre it's based on miles. So no doubt I will start losing money on fuel costs soon.
 
£1.47 for petrol,at the supermarkets in dudley. The local stations vary from 1.52 to 1.65. Mines a company car without a fuel card, shame I have another 3 months before HMRC adjust the fuel rates.
 
I do feel really sorry for people that have to do a lot of driving for work that have to pay and claim back petrol. Sister in law is a sales rep and it's starting to cost her money per mile now, that's eating into her salary. She couldn't even use an EV due to the mileage.

Seems working from home (for those that do) is paying off even more in terms of fuel savings.

My Volvo is petrol I get about 28mpg usually, if I had to commute like I used to I shudder to think how much that would be costing me each month.

I only use my car now couple of times a week mostly short journeys (hence the not great mpg) so this isn't affecting me as much.

Dont get me wrong, we have to move forward and we can't keep sending money to Russia (or be reliant on anyone really) I just hope the government put more money into renewables as although it'll cost in the short term, there are long term gains. If I get could get a like for like electric car Vs a petrol car for the same money I'd switch today, but you can't and I don't have a spare 30k to buy an EV.

Our government is short sighted also, although we are paying for that now.
 
BUDFORCE said:
I do feel really sorry for people that have to do a lot of driving for work that have to pay and claim back petrol. Sister in law is a sales rep and it's starting to cost her money per mile now, that's eating into her salary. She couldn't even use an EV due to the mileage.

Seems working from home (for those that do) is paying off even more in terms of fuel savings.

My Volvo is petrol I get about 28mpg usually, if I had to commute like I used to I shudder to think how much that would be costing me each month.
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I was already worse off for work miles so this has just pushed me further into the negative for work use. Probably circa £5 to £10 a day for my average mileage when not in the office.

Unfortunately the HMRC figures for the next quarter were set just as the prices were on the up and ignored the changes keeping the same rate as previously. 1st June should see a rise in rates but the only way you'd see the difference back is if they set the rates and then the price dropped the following week.

Encountered a bit of smugness from EV drivers about the situation which is odd as last time I checked the food in the supermarkets wasn't delivered in a Tesla Model 3 so they haven't completely avoided the cost implications, they'll feel the pinch indirectly too.
 
Yaayuh! said:
Really? Is it a case of inconvenience or one end of the country to the other sort of miles?
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I've looked into EVs (not that my employer would entertain the idea) and for me they would be great for work if I can charge at home. As soon as I have nights away the logistics and cost if public charging are too much of a pain. We'll get there soon though I'm sure.
 
lordrobs said:
Encountered a bit of smugness from EV drivers about the situation which is odd as last time I checked the food in the supermarkets wasn't delivered in a Tesla Model 3 so they haven't completely avoided the cost implications, they'll feel the pinch indirectly too.
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Yeah without a doubt, transportation in supply chains still heavily relies on petrol/diesel, and with those costs rocketing means the increased costs pass on to the consumer.
 
I’m not sure why EV drivers are feeling smug, even the cheapest EV tariffs have gone up 50% in the last year, admittedly from a much lower base cost per mile but it’s still gone up.
 
Semple said:
Yeah without a doubt, transportation in supply chains still heavily relies on petrol/diesel, and with those costs rocketing means the increased costs pass on to the consumer.
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I can see us killing off some services where I work - consumers simply won't pay the prices required to make them sustainable with the increased fuel cost. Which will likely lead to job losses in some departments.
 
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