Fuel price discussion thread (was ‘chaos’)
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And I'm sure this will help...
https://news.sky.com/story/extincti...to-take-a-stand-against-fossil-fuels-12561576
https://news.sky.com/story/extincti...to-take-a-stand-against-fossil-fuels-12561576
Well that won't help anyone as the forecourts will charge more due to supply and demand and people wont have any choice but to pay the more extortionate prices.
Even if the price of petrol/diesel were to stay static (which is unlikely), driving an EV will almost certainly still be significantly cheaper than an equivalent ICE car. If (although at the moment it's looking more like "when"
) it gets to the point of cost parity (e.g. the 48p/kwh which squerble has mentioned above) then a lot of people are going to be ****** regardless of what they drive.Yup. With all the increases we're seeing at the moment, even relatively comfortable families with 2 decent incomes are going to be going from the position of sticking a few hundred/month in savings to barely breaking even.
Anyway, to stay on topic, have just been to fill the car over lunch and no panic buying at my local Morrisons. It wasn't empty, but no busier than usual. Diesel at £1.559 which isn't too bad considering some of the prices which have been posted above!
There are going to be a lot of already angry and anxious people around who aren't going to take kindly to something like that. Call me pessimistic if you will but I wouldn't be at all surprised if something were to kick off majorly. I get why they're doing it since right now it will have more impact, but I can see it as very much taking a spark to a tinderbox
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Why are you quoting 7.5p per kwh? Majority of people are paying the price cap currently at 20p per kwh, which will rise to about 30 in April, then again in October.
Most people with an EV has octopus go and charge at 7.5p (or even 5p)
as adam said, if you put the petrol rise in the context of typical full ownership per mile ICE cost - 40p/mile ?
typical consumption ? 7 miles/Litre , that would be ~4p/mile increase, on top of the 40p/mile ownership cost, so similar to the 8% inflation.
so, I'm saving 24p if I cycle to the supermarket/gym - is the price of bicycles also inflating.
Public transport and the train is probably back in play, too, or, will those costs be increasing Sadiq?
typical consumption ? 7 miles/Litre , that would be ~4p/mile increase, on top of the 40p/mile ownership cost, so similar to the 8% inflation.
so, I'm saving 24p if I cycle to the supermarket/gym - is the price of bicycles also inflating.
Public transport and the train is probably back in play, too, or, will those costs be increasing Sadiq?
Ah ok. I would have thought these fixed deals are also about to end as well though?
Largely depends on your distance/route when you look at car vs train cost, but for the majority of people, trains have always been much higher sadly. Public transport costs will go up as well anyway...always do...they don't need an excuse.
The price of bicycles is somewhat irrelevant as it's not an ongoing cost. Although the cost of "fuel" (food) is going up which will increase the running costs in a way...
I would imagine there still will be an Octopus Go tariff with lower costs for X hours overnight charging. What it costs will remain to be seen (mine doesn't expire till June).
Yeah, for me to take the train to work involves a 2 mile walk/cycle, a train into the city centre, walk through a crowded station another train to the town I work in, and another 2 mile walk/cycle to the office. Takes 1.5 hours and costs £10 return (well, it did the one time I did it about 3 years ago, so probably about £15 now).
To drive takes 20-30 mins depending on traffic and cost me ~30p/day when I had the Zoe, or ~£3.50 in the Octavia with today's fuel prices. Sure there's other costs to be taken into account with vehicle ownership, but we need a car anyway, and the purchase cost & VED would be exactly the same even if I wasn't using it to commute, and the insurance would only be marginally cheaper.
The 7.5p one is still available for a fix for EV owners. I'm on the 5p one for another 11 months or something, after they screwed up my renewal. We're a fully electric car household now.
The 7.5p one is still available for a fix for EV owners. I'm on the 5p one for another 11 months or something, after they screwed up my renewal. We're a fully electric car household now.
What you have to prove EV ownership? How does it work? Is the 7.5p during certain times and does it apply to the entire supply into the house or only the EV charge point? What's to stop any Tom,Dick,Harry taking it up right now without an EV?
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It isn't "EV Specific", it is just designed for heavy consumption at points in the night. Most EVs can charge between certain times. Think of it as economy 7 on steroids.
Yes you have to prove EV ownership. 7.5p/kWh rate is available from 0030-0430, and yes it's just to the household, not specifically the EVSE.
I'm really hoping they don't need proof for people who are already on it when they renew.
It's only mentioned on their site for people needing to join, as far as I can see.
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I'd honestly love to be able to afford a decent EV that will get me the miles I need.. and the accessible charging point at work and home
But I can't because I'm evil.
But I can't because I'm evil.
Incentivised to use energy when demand is much lower. Thus reducing demand at peak times.