Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

[Firestar_3x]

Ah, so Poland can happily say we sold our migs to the American, not Ukraine. What the Americans choose to do with them is their business!

Yes and delivered to an airbase in Germany to stop Russia doing something stupid quite as easily.

 

[LCG-xyz]

I can't decide between troll, bot and useful idiot.

More insults, nice.

 

[banbom44]

Yes
Definitely going to impact a lot of people who may or may not agree with all this.

Terrible situation for so many to be in

McDonalds are still going to pay their wages.

 

[Stumble Bum]

I like this bit in the statement too

'The Polish Government also requests other NATO Allies – owners of MIG-29 jets – to act in the same vein.'

Hopefully it paves the way for other countries to do the same.

 

[NinjaCool]

Yeah it just got posted on gov.pl and seems like a big development!
https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/st...ry-of-state-on-providing-airplanes-to-ukraine

 

[Semple]

It could also be the kick up the behind the first world needs to actually ditch oil and gas as a fuel source.

If the money for nordstream2 had been used for wine/solar/hydro it would have helped a lot!

Yeah definitely needs a kick. It's not just energy though. Whilst global trade is fantastic, it does highlight the problems if a country isn't self-sufficient. The fact that the world relies on 1/3rd of the global wheat supply from 2 countries is crazy, and is a recipe for disaster which is now unfolding.

 

[mburn_83]

You would be surprised how things are perceived outside of the west propaganda bubble.

In my home country people are disgusted with the west arming Ukraine so two brotherly slavic nations can kill each other. There is always two-sides to a story and I can assure you tons of people consider the UK among others as the warmongering villains.

So what, better to let one side kill the other with impunity- and then move on to another victim?

Would people in your home country also support say, India moving in on Kashmir or NKorea invading SKorea?

 

[Rilot]

More insults, nice.

Maybe answer the questions I asked of you.

 

[LCG-xyz]

Yes, I dismissed him after doing basic research on his history. If you’d done the same you wouldn’t post such nonsense on here.

Do you subject commentators that you agree with to the same scrutiny?

 

[banbom44]

It was an incredibly stupid move (approving the pipeline was one of the few things I praised Trump for) but the US is still energy independent.



That'll hurt Europe, but not the US. Still can't get my head around the fact that Europe decided it would be a good idea to become reliant on Russia for fossil fuels. Utter madness.

Blame Merkel mostly for that she shut down all the nuclear reactors panicked about the Fukushima power plant.

 

[Mr Jack]

HUGE!!!! On the way to Ukraine!!!

How many planes are we talking about here?

 

[Rilot]

Do you subject commentators that you agree with to the same scrutiny?

Do you? Or is it, this is counter to what MSM is saying therefore = true.

 

[NZXT30]

So what, better to let one side kill the other with impunity- and then move on to another victim?

Would people in your home country also support say, India moving in on Kashmir or NKorea invading SKorea?

An equivalent example would be Russia meddling in Wales for decades to get them under a hypothetical Soviet Union and arming them so they can kill the English.

Yes I would be disgusted.

There is no possible winner in this conflict the whole thing is just sad beyond belief.

 

[Firestar_3x]

How many planes are we talking about here?

21 single and 6 twin seaters.

 

[NinjaCool]

According to Janes World Air Forces, Poland has 21 single-seat MiG-29s and 6 twin-seat MiG-29s.

 

[Malevolence]

I like this bit in the statement too

'The Polish Government also requests other NATO Allies – owners of MIG-29 jets – to act in the same vein.'

Hopefully it paves the way for other countries to do the same.

The only other NATO countries to fly the MiG-29 are Bulgaria and Slovakia.

 

[Stumble Bum]

How many planes are we talking about here?

27 apparently.

 

[dowie]

Yeah it just got posted on gov.pl Big development!
https://www.gov.pl/web/diplomacy/st...ry-of-state-on-providing-airplanes-to-ukraine

Boom! Actually hopefully not the other sort of boom... don't want Russia attacking Poland now... but hopefully this helps Ukraine take down more Russian aircraft.

Sad thing is if countries had acted sooner on this - supplied this stuff before hostilities started, along with hardened shelters etc.. then there would have been less risk, Russia can't as easily retrospectively act if Poland had already supplied these before the invasion and US had funded it.

I guess on the other hand it's a kind of testing the waters thing - will Russia respond to this by attacking Poland or are they still going to be cautious about bringing NATO further into this conflict, especially after the losses they've had already.

I like this bit in the statement too

'The Polish Government also requests other NATO Allies – owners of MIG-29 jets – to act in the same vein.'

Hopefully it paves the way for other countries to do the same.

Yeah it's kinda fair... shouldn't just be Poland taking the risk here, everyone else needs to back them and the other two countries with MiGs should supply them.

 

[Firestar_3x]

Well they've basically just doubled the number of Mig-29's available to them Hope they have enough pilots.

 

[Washout]

You would be surprised how things are perceived outside of the west propaganda bubble.

In my home country people are disgusted with the west arming Ukraine so two brotherly slavic nations can kill each other. There is always two-sides to a story and I can assure you tons of people consider the UK among others as the warmongering villains.

So the people in your home country believe it's ok for Russia to roll in the tanks and take over a sovereign, democratic nation? And they think those that are helping the Ukrainians defend themselves are the 'disgusting' ones? Yeah, nah.