Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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arknor said:
I mean if all he did was provide air support it's not much of a test for Russia is it.

I'm not picking his side <FACEPALM>
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Not quite sure that besieging a city for 4 years, levelling it to the ground and killing 31,000 civilians is "only providing air support".
 
StriderX said:
In many ways Russia hasn't even recovered from the early 20th century considering it's GDP is farcically smaller than it ought to be.
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And it's worse than that makes it look: it's GDP from actually productive activities (as opposed to extraction) is laughably bad. It's only high oil and gas prices that cover up the disaster underneath. Kind of ironic that Soviet incompetence and malpractice at Chernobyl scared so much of the world away from nuclear power, and it ended up enriching post-Soviet Kleptocrats.
 
Malevolence said:
Yes, they bombed civilian areas, waited until the injured were taken to hospital and they bombed the hospitals.
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Now they've amped it up another stage, and they're killing prospective Ukrainian soldiers the moment they're born by shelling maternity hospitals just in case this goes on for 18 years...
 
Mik3 said:
Kharkiv again, I feel sorry for those poor people there, it must be hell living through that nightmare.
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It's so frustrating watching these videos and then having to listen to our weak politicians come and say what they won't be do and refuse to lay down any red lines against any of Russia's actions. Meanwhile these criminal thugs can't away with blowing up people's homes and lives knowing they have effect immunity against any potential criminal penalties.
 
Nasher said:
Blair was also quite pally with him. Did speeches at political events after he was PM.
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not that Blair has much, if anything to do with anything, but there’s a distinct difference between being “pally” with someone and being in their direct employ like Farage is/was.
 
Found this article about Russia's intermediate future interesting though unsurprising.

https://carnegiemoscow.org/2021/11/...npaid-bills-and-economic-stagnation-pub-85852

The surveyed experts did not speak directly about the political consequences of their economic predictions. However, most study participants agreed that most of the socioeconomic risks discussed will become pressing in ten to fifteen years. This means that as of 2024, when Putin is next up for reelection, Russian society and elites will likely not yet feel the true impact of these problems. Thus, one can presume that the regime has every chance of continuing through the next presidential election without significant stress and without a need for serious change.

The presidential term after that, however, will not be such smooth sailing. In 2030–2036, if not earlier, the challenges described will most likely materialize. Above all, the energy transition coupled with the further deterioration of Russia’s human capital and the intensification of paternalist sentiments will make it harder for the state to satisfy the population if state budget revenues fall. The regime will become a hostage to its own state budget–centric position—extremely exaggerated in recent years—and its desire for major state interventions in the economy. This will be augmented by the aging of the Russian establishment, including the president (Putin will turn seventy-eight in 2030), and the eventual arrival of new faces will further complicate matters. It is doubtful that the increasingly elderly establishment will be able to overcome the impending challenges.

At the same time, as one expert noted, “it will be far more difficult to resolve this situation than it was in the 1990s, when developed countries were growing dynamically and were interested in Russia, including as a new market. In the near future, the developed world will have many problems of its own and will pay very little attention to Russia.”

The result is a vicious circle: the regime likely will not create resources to advance the country’s economic development other than rents. The gradual dwindling of these revenue streams and the reduction of opportunities to redistribute national wealth through state channels, along with the oppressed state of small and medium-sized businesses and civil society, all promise very serious problems for the future generations that will live beyond the ten to fifteen years remaining in the expected lifetimes of Russia’s Putin-led elites.
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Not entirely sure how this escapade will affect their trajectory, but if all they want to do is hold onto power even if it cripples their country in the future I guess making the precariat even more reliant on the state to survive is the go to policy for these 'patriots'.

The already problematic issue of brain drain has certainly been accelerated over the last few weeks and is likely to continue at a heightened pace further hollowing out what remains of their working populace.
 
Minusorange said:

Turns out the Russian TV lady may have been propaganda, quite a clever trick to play really
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I certainly possible, it sounds a bit convoluted but the best propaganda often is, he's is right about one thing though you can trust anything coming out of Russia.
What I've learned about propaganda, its about planting a seed in the mind that can grow.
 
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