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"the west" Heh, name one country in the west that has free speech.... except America.
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"the west" Heh, name one country in the west that has free speech.... except America.
Every signatory to the European Convention on Human Rights.
America doesnt have free speech either....
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The answer is none, you can't be on the internet and be this naive surely?
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Eh?, its the only country in the west with actual free speech, everywhere else has "hate speech" laws or the "communications act".
"The First Amendment provides that Congress make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting its free exercise. It protects freedom of speech, the press, assembly, and the right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Of course they are not going to allow hate speech or people to incite violence so within reason covers it.
A circle jerk is Putin pulling the strings of all his Kremlin puppets. Strings soon to be cut.
https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/what-european-convention-human-rights
A link to a summary of said convention
Article 10 of the European Convention on Human Rights guarantees the right to Freedom of Expression.
I fail to see what that has to do with my post or this thread.
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- 2012: Paul Chambers made a joke on Twitter in response to Robin Hood Airport cancelling flights. He said that unless the facility resolved the problem within a week, he would be "blowing the airport sky high". After an off-duty manager discovered the post, Chambers was arrested by anti-terror police. He was found guilty, lost his job and was ordered to pay a £385 fine and £600 in costs.[17] However, after a strong public outcry[18] and three appeals,[19] the case was eventually overturned.[20]
- 2014: A Lincolnshire man was charged with being grossly offensive after posting a photograph of a policeman on social media, with two phalluses drawn on it. The offending picture was passed on to Lincolnshire Police, who arrested the 20-year-old. He was ordered to pay £400 in compensation to the officer in question, in addition to £85 costs and a £60 victim surcharge.[21]
- 2017: R v Mwaikambo where a 43-year-old man posted one video and seven pictures of a victim of the Grenfell Towers tragedy to his Facebook account. Notable in this case was the rapidity of conviction: the fire occurred on 14 June and the case was heard but two days later. Mwaikambo was imprisoned by Ikram J for a total of three months.[22][23]
- 2018: Mark Meechan, a comedian and social commentator, was convicted under the Communications Act in 2018. He had made a video demonstrating how he had trained his girlfriend's dog to perform a Nazi salute upon hearing the phrase "Sieg Heil" and to respond to being asked if he wanted to "gas the Jews".[24][25][26] Even though Meechan said that he was not actually racist and that it was a joke intended to annoy his girlfriend, the court found him guilty of being "grossly offensive" on 20 March.[27] He was fined £800 at Airdrie Sheriff Court on 23 April 2018.[28]
- 2018: A Merseyside woman was wrongly convicted under the Communications Act for posting rap lyrics on Instagram which were deemed 'racist', due to them including racially-charged language. Chelsea Russell had used lyrics from a Snap Dogg song as a tribute to a boy who died in a road accident. She was sentenced to an eight-week community order, along with an eight-week curfew. She was also ordered to pay costs of £500 and an £85 victim surcharge.[29][30] Her wrongful conviction was quashed on appeal in February 2019.[31][32]
- Kate Scottow was convicted in February 2020 for tweeting transphobic insults. This conviction was quashed on appeal in December 2020.[33]
The fact that some of these were overturned is irrelevant, jokes and "offensive" tweets shouldnt be any business of the state in the first place.
As opposed to your post characterising all the posters here had in relation to putins war on Ukraine,
You don't seem to have any understanding of what free speech is. Free speech does not mean that you are free to say absolutely anything without consequence - even in America.
The idea is that the state is attempting to minimise the extreme views/actions by providing a concept of what is acceptable or not. The rules are there to stop terrorist or hate speach causing problems within society.
The issue is the police get ideas about it's application when some are simply no different to what would happen down the pub.
The only post I can think of characterising posters here was the one were I called it a cesspit of hate and hypocrisy.
Is that the one you are referring to?Free speech basically covers everything except actual threats of violence, calling other people to do violence to someone, and falsely claiming there's an emergency i.e. saying there's a bomb on a plane or fire in a crowded building etc.
While Romans were conquering the world, American cities were *checks notes* little fishing villages, ha! Take that Americans
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Freedom of speech over here, in many places, and on many forums, is currently the verbal equivalent of walking on broken glass, compared to America.
One example is, to coin a Garnettism, how some sections of society have been mugged into accepting that the ages old expression "a coloured person" is now totally taboo, yet the linguistically awkward, "a person of colour", which has been thrust upon a bewildered older generation is fine and dandy.
Meanwhile half the violence enshrining music from our rap "artists" has the the N word flung around with gay abandon.
One example is, to coin a Garnettism, how some sections of society have been mugged into accepting that the ages old expression "a coloured person" is now totally taboo, yet the linguistically awkward, "a person of colour", which has been thrust upon a bewildered older generation is fine and dandy.
Meanwhile half the violence enshrining music from our rap "artists" has the the N word flung around with gay abandon.
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