Another Putin fan I see, they infest everywhere.
Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Another Putin fan I see, they infest everywhere.
It's fine for me.
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This thread is great. We get to debate the correct was to say The Ukraine/Ukraine and which nicknames are acceptable for Putin
Situation normal for an internet forum then....
A nuclear holocaust is currently a distinct possibility, but meanwhile we must be sure no one, not even one of the orchestrators of the situation, can claim offence for some linguistic triviality 
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In French Putin (it's missing an "a") but if you pronounce it as you see it, it means something altogether something else!
OMG, I'd forgotten that. Post of the day for me
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Still doesnt give Puty the right to invade Ukraine.
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Its back now I should have screenied it
No.. we've been far too soft on Putin up until this point.
You should read, Winter is Coming by Garry Kasparov. It's quite sobering and no we couldn't have avoided this. Putin has been planning this for years. He can't fully integrate with Western values as he is running a dictatorship and has no option but to attack Ukraine and the West as its against everything he stands for.
As far as i know China blame the US for causing many wars worldwide between neighbour countries.
I keep hearing analysts saying 'we caused this'. No, we didn't. You don't have to give in to the demands of bullies.
They absolute BS coming out of Russia, it's suppression of it's own people, the atrocities being committed are proof that we shouldn't have backed down. I'm not discounting that the west does things like 'WMD's' when there are none etc, in an attempt to justify things btw. The Russia level's are just absolutely off the charts.
Being one hundred percent clear here: Russian gov always had desire to take back Ukraine and other former territories and possibly others. It was never about NATO, that was just a convenient excuse.
They absolute BS coming out of Russia, it's suppression of it's own people, the atrocities being committed are proof that we shouldn't have backed down. I'm not discounting that the west does things like 'WMD's' when there are none etc, in an attempt to justify things btw. The Russia level's are just absolutely off the charts.
Being one hundred percent clear here: Russian gov always had desire to take back Ukraine and other former territories and possibly others. It was never about NATO, that was just a convenient excuse.
Fair enough. Was just a theory. There are those that believe Putin was almost goaded into this. Or at least sidelined or overlooked as a "gangster" whilst the West set off on it's new path to see China as the new "enemy".
Putin felt like he and his country was having the mickey taken and decided to re-establish his authority.
I'm only trying to see things from as many angles as possible rather than sitting in an echo chamber.
Indeed. Quite straight talking. However to recognise Ukraine would also imply validation of Taiwan.
The question though is this - was NATO in Ukraine before the invasion? No. I thought Belarus was also a sovereign nation covered by the agreements. Putin's puppet some how deposed the elected leader and also there's Russian nuclear weapons against the NATO boundary.
Is the Ukraine a sovereign state separate from russia - yes. The flaw in the Russian negotiation back in the Cold War was it didn't state that the countries themselves could seek to join the EU or NATO. It only covered restrictive covenants for NATO inviting countries in.
Russia didn't like the idea that the Ukraine could provide the EU competitive gas. It goes against the NordStream political leverage, nor the loss of influence with puppets or sympathy.
The actions of Russia abandoning the agreement have left the other countries concerned and seeking closer ties/membership by themselves. The Russian actions have caused a reaction - perhaps that was intended by Putin to validate his plan to take back those states and validate a war against Finland for example.
It's a bit like squid game green light red light - where Putin's gaze falls you must be cheering.
Yeah, if it was "Putty" I could understand. What the hell is "Puty" even referring to? Just seems an ineffective way of belittling him and doesn't make much sense.
Can't remember which Russian dictator it was but they had to install a bell in what I assume was the Duma at the time. As no one wanted to be the first person to stop clapping when The Boss entered they needed a bell for everyone present to stop clapping.
Building is bombed/shelled.
Apparently hundreds/thousands of people trapped inside.
Footage of building destroyed exists taking 1-2 days after the event.
No footage of any rescue operation, no bodies, no ambulances.
2 days later, told people still trapped/Rescue operation underway.
Sorry for not just blindingly believing it because someone said it on twitter.
of course Ukraine wouldn't want to show of the horrors of what happened like they did with every other atrocity committed by Russia.
Not believing it makes me a putin fan? oh your either with us or against us, your not allowed to have an opinion of whether something actually happened or not, you must believe.....
When did the truth stop mattering? when generation millennial?
Cut the phone lines to stem the flow of misinformation and independent thought quick...
and FYI I already said we should just have invaded Belarus and made it our Ukraine.... they don't like their leader and would have welcomed us, either that or we could have decided to occupy the other half of Ukraine so they still exist...
how that;s a putin fan boy? trying to silence people for having an opinion that doesn't match yours is just pathetic...
Whataboutism, gaslighting crap is just cancel culture for millennials to stop any debate.
it's not better than what dictators and communists do.... it's exactly what they do
blinded by emotions are we?
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Putin and his cronies just wanted to reset what Gorbachov started. Back to no questions and a iron curtain.
putty
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a soft, malleable greyish-yellow paste, made from ground chalk and raw linseed oil, that hardens after a few hours and is used for sealing glass in window frames and filling holes in wood.
"countersink the screws so they can be covered with putty"
Treated with more respect? They invaded Georgia not long ago and now invaded Ukraine which is right on our doorstep.
Why would you treat them with respect? They are a clear and present danger to Europe and are not going to get any trust from any of Europe ever again, never mind the Americans, although I'm sure they are of the same opinion.
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