Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Sankari said:
That's interesting, I wasn't aware of this. Can you give me some more details? I'm keen to learn more.
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I assume you are referring to the Yom Kippur war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War I don't have time at the moment to go into detail but the references to nuclear are there - though some aspects are contested i.e. how much the threat of nuclear forced US decision making to resupply.
 
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ChrisLX200 said:
Er no. You could walk into space if there was a tall enough staircase so speed has nothing to do with it, all you need do is counteract mavity for long enough. Maybe you are getting confused with 'escape velocity' which is 25,000mph.
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-ah edit, yes they don't need to hit escape velocity per se, they are however big missiles that travel across the world in like 20 minutes... they're are hypersonic.
 
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dowie said:
Yup, good illustration, but the point was about the speed not the trajectory, in order to get into space in the first place they've got to be "hypersonic".



No, but if someone is commenting on a feature it "supposedly" has yet that feature has existed for 60 years then perhaps... "Intel has released a new CPU and it uses transistors, you can supposedly use it to build a computer that doesn't require valves".

Both the US and Russia have had missiles that can go into space for some time now. There is lots of silly hype around some of this stuff that's all.

An ICBM with a trajectory that arcs upwards into space can be seen sooner... but, they also have countermeasures and deploy multiple warheads.
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Yeah the main difference is the missile can do hypersonic speeds in horizontal flight so you can't predict where it will land unlike a ballistic missile you just have a line with its maximum range and its current heading and the target could be anywhere along it so harder to intercept.


Late detection, lower altitude and high speed means it will get past the current gen of missile sheilds.
 
Tefal said:
Yeah the main difference is the missile can do hypersonic speeds in horizontal flight so you can't predict where it will land unlike a ballistic missile you just have a line with its maximum range and its current heading and the target could be anywhere along it so harder to intercept.


Late detection, lower altitude and high speed means it will get past the current gen of missile sheilds.
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I dunno, I think the advantage is uncertain at the mo - multiple warheads, possible countermeasures etc.. etc.. to saturate a defensive system vs a single (but hard to intercept missile).
 
Russians still denying what's happening in Ukraine; still supporting Putin's war.

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Rroff said:
I assume you are referring to the Yom Kippur war: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yom_Kippur_War I don't have time at the moment to go into detail but the references to nuclear are there - though some aspects are contested i.e. how much the threat of nuclear forced US decision making to resupply.
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Yes, Yom Kippur war. Thanks.
 
dowie said:
I dunno, I think the advantage is uncertain at the mo - multiple warheads, possible countermeasures etc.. etc.. to saturate a defensive system vs a single (but hard to intercept missile).
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Yeah I think that's the escalation risk, and icbm is you're flattening everything to make sure it gets through, so it's q last resort you're firing them all


This thing while useful conventionally could also be seen as a "tactical" platform for nukes, which means they may be more likely used.

But I suspect the biggest worry with these things is more them hitting radars or carriers etc. They will get past the patriot, iorn dome or CARMs guns and potentially hit nice shiny things but not nuclear just an unavoidable cruse missile
 
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*Stoltenberg to NBC: Any Russian Escalation Outside Ukraine Will Lead to a Firm Response from the NATO
 
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