*** Big Fat Weight Loss Thread ***

Not really, but you are quite clear that you know what to do but you want a fad to follow to do it. Why do you need a fad when you just need to eat less?? Fads still require you to plan your intake to know your eating less.
 
Exactly. Just make something up yourself? "I'm not going to eat chocolate for a month", "I'm not going to have lunch for a month", "I'm going to eat just 1,000 calories every other day", "I'm going to run 3 5k's a week". Take your pick surely?
 
Not really, but you are quite clear that you know what to do but you want a fad to follow to do it. Why do you need a fad when you just need to eat less?? Fads still require you to plan your intake to know your eating less.

Like I said, was looking a new diet to create excitement of doing something new to keep myself motivated. I'm very well-aware that under the hood it's always the first law of thermodynamics in action, everyone knows that (don't need that repeated to me in every reply...).

Exactly. Just make something up yourself? "I'm not going to eat chocolate for a month", "I'm not going to have lunch for a month", "I'm going to eat just 1,000 calories every other day", "I'm going to run 3 5k's a week". Take your pick surely?

Yeah not a bad idea. Maybe I name it and sell a book :D:cry:
 
Calories in<Calories out= you lose weight

It really is that simple, a lot of "influencers" will tell you that some sort of faddy diet that they just happen to endorse and make money out of is the answer, along with some fresh magical excercise routine(which they also sell)

But it's all BS, basically you could eat nothing but pizza, have less calories going into your body than goes out via your metabolism and any excercise you do, and you will still lose weight.

Obviously I'm not suggesting that's the best way to go as it would have other health implications long term.

It is a lot simpler than a lot of people would have you believe is my point.
 
Like I said, I'm aware it's down to the first law of thermodynamics in the end, as if that was ever in any doubt.
 
I'm going to be very honest, which might lead to me sounding like a d*ck... what you want to do doesn't sound like a particularly healthy way to approach things, so I (and maybe others) are struggling to get on board :) Although this thread is about weight loss, I feel it's more about being healthy. (Hence my suggestions of going out for a run and other folk encouraging a healthier way to lower your weight with control) I feel it's almost taking the mickey out of the serious effort a lot of people have put into improving themselves?
 
I'm going to be very honest, which might lead to me sounding like a d*ck... what you want to do doesn't sound like a particularly healthy way to approach things, so I (and maybe others) are struggling to get on board :) Although this thread is about weight loss, I feel it's more about being healthy. (Hence my suggestions of going out for a run and other folk encouraging a healthier way to lower your weight with control) I feel it's almost taking the mickey out of the serious effort a lot of people have put into improving themselves?

Not sure why people took this personally, or it would ever be perceived as putting into question the effort that other people are doing. I only ever talked about myself... As if what I say about myself - not anyone else - would question anyone else's hard work and efforts, it doesn't and shouldn't.

People should not question their own efforts/plan if someone else wants to do something that's a little (or a lot) different for themselves. I got the feeling that people are seeking validation for their own plans by putting others down and being unnecessarily hostile and aggressive (quite common in weight loss communities). While their diet plan might be healthy for them, this attitude definitely is not. .
 
I got the feeling that people are seeking validation for their own plans by putting others down and being unnecessarily hostile and aggressive (quite common in weight loss communities). While their diet plan might be healthy for them, this attitude definitely is not.

I personally don't think so. I don't think anyone has been hostile or aggressive have they? As I say, I think people are just trying to persuade you to achieve your goals a healthier way. I don't think that's an unhealthy attitude. I would say it's the opposite.
 
Which fads are popular these days? Gained about a stone during the lockdowns and then kept it from going further up for about a year during the last year or so, keen to lose this stone and go back to maintaining. If I could do some diet for 3 months, lose this and go back to my normal maintaining eating that'd be cool.

I've read through the replies you got for this post and rather than get involved in that discussion, I'll suggest either 5/2 fasting or 16/8 fasting.

5/2 fasting worked for me over ten years ago and was easy to actually stick to permanently.

It also worked for my wife who has dropped in and out of doing it, when she wanted to drop some weight she'd gained when she wasn't fasting.

You should easily drop up to 5-7 kgs in six to eight weeks.
 
The thing is though IF isnt a fad, its an eating strategy, it doesn't prescribe what to eat, just when for example. Fad diets usually try to eliminate something and dictate what to eat.

As i offered in a very early response is food tracking, and IF would likely help, but neither of those are fads per say.
 
The thing is though IF isnt a fad, its an eating strategy, it doesn't prescribe what to eat, just when for example. Fad diets usually try to eliminate something and dictate what to eat.

As i offered in a very early response is food tracking, and IF would likely help, but neither of those are fads per say.

Agreed.

But it also something that fits the "I just need it to reset me back to my normal weight, and I can take it from there" fix he's after.

5/2 fasting only requires an eating plan for 2 days a week. Or potentially one 600 calories meal plan, twice a week.
 
I personally don't think so. I don't think anyone has been hostile or aggressive have they? As I say, I think people are just trying to persuade you to achieve your goals a healthier way. I don't think that's an unhealthy attitude. I would say it's the opposite.

Fair enough. My bad then.

I've read through the replies you got for this post and rather than get involved in that discussion, I'll suggest either 5/2 fasting or 16/8 fasting.

5/2 fasting worked for me over ten years ago and was easy to actually stick to permanently.

It also worked for my wife who has dropped in and out of doing it, when she wanted to drop some weight she'd gained when she wasn't fasting.

You should easily drop up to 5-7 kgs in six to eight weeks.

IF is interesting. Not really my typical style which makes it exciting.

The thing is though IF isnt a fad, its an eating strategy, it doesn't prescribe what to eat, just when for example. Fad diets usually try to eliminate something and dictate what to eat.

As i offered in a very early response is food tracking, and IF would likely help, but neither of those are fads per say.

Have seen IF being referred to as a fad by many people, just google "intermittent fasting fad" and you get results in WebMD, Stanford, MedPage, NCBI/NIH and many others.

Again not saying it doesn't work, but what is or isn't considered a fad isn't always clear and the lines are very blurry. A lot of people consider low-carb a fad (I do too), but there are doctors prescribing it now.

Agreed.

But it also something that fits the "I just need it to reset me back to my normal weight, and I can take it from there" fix he's after.

5/2 fasting only requires an eating plan for 2 days a week. Or potentially one 600 calories meal plan, twice a week.

I'm more comfortable with an eating plan for 7 days a week than 2. I can stick to 100%, can't do to 25%.
 
I got the feeling that people are seeking validation for their own plans by putting others down and being unnecessarily hostile and aggressive (quite common in weight loss communities). While their diet plan might be healthy for them, this attitude definitely is not. .
Nah, just people on diets getting all 'hangry', I expect.
 
Fair enough. My bad then.



IF is interesting. Not really my typical style which makes it exciting.



Have seen IF being referred to as a fad by many people, just google "intermittent fasting fad" and you get results in WebMD, Stanford, MedPage, NCBI/NIH and many others.

Again not saying it doesn't work, but what is or isn't considered a fad isn't always clear and the lines are very blurry. A lot of people consider low-carb a fad (I do too), but there are doctors prescribing it now.



I'm more comfortable with an eating plan for 7 days a week than 2. I can stick to 100%, can't do to 25%.

Not quite sure why you need the latest and greatest fad diet to get you started. You either want to loose weight or you don't.

If you do, then how you do it is never going to be exciting or that radically different to anything that's gone before.

Let's face it, all fad/trending diets are a variation on the same themes and ideas that have gone before.

Or that they basically involve some kind of short term, unsustainable starvation gimmick, that some half wit celebrity has been on.
 
Not quite sure why you need the latest and greatest fad diet to get you started. You either want to loose weight or you don't.

If you do, then how you do it is never going to be exciting or that radically different to anything that's gone before.

Let's face it, all fad/trending diets are a variation on the same themes and ideas that have gone before.

Or that they basically involve some kind of short term, unsustainable starvation gimmick, that some half wit celebrity has been on.

Well just wanted excitement of trying something new that I haven't done before and was not aware of really, nothing more.
 
Well just wanted excitement of trying something new that I haven't done before and was not aware of really, nothing more.
As everyone who knows what 'thermodynamics' means is so keen to point out - Losing weight is simple... in concept. The reality is that it's hard to actually stick to it long enough to see an effect, and even harder to maintain once you've lost it. THAT is the real struggle.
So perhaps just do whatever personally worked best for reducing your weight previously, and instead focus on what changes you'll make to your life that keep the weight off.
 
I sort of inadvertently do intermittent fasting in that I rarely eat before mid day and stop eating around 7/8PM at night.

What's 5/2, 2 days with a total fast?
 
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