Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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NickK said:
So 6%.
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No, 18%.

You may find this more interesting: pnas.1210722109 in terms of Putin's validity from elections. It's an analysis of the Russian election voting, compared with the same for other countries such as France, Canada etc including Uganda.
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What exactly am I supposed to be looking at here? Are you under the bizarre misapprehension that I believe Putin's elections are valid and legitimate?

In Putin's russia. Yes.
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Life was cheap in Russia before Putin. Life has always been cheap in Russia.

bris said:
The problem is they don't actually know what they are supporting.

Putin has them believing they are de nazifying the country and liberating the population.

They really don't know the truth because for most of the population all the see is state news and propoganda.
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Oh come on, it's a little late to still be pushing the 'Poor Russians, they don't know any better' line.
 
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uzmanov's london properties so what if they are in trusts - aren't they the proceeds of crime ?
Even if Putin withdrew now, the ramifications for years to come on Ukraine will have rendered it impotent , without some reparatory contributions.
 
Rroff said:
I'd imagine for instance with the NLAWs we are cycling out the older stock - IIRC they have 20 year lifespan or something - and hopefully replacing it within the next few months.

Some stuff there is concerns about not being replaced i.e. the S-300 systems and one of the reasons countries weren't eager to give up their MIGs without a replacement.
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Well haven't Slovakia just been given patriot missile systems for AA defence? I'm guessing it had a few S300 or similar that it can now pass on to Ukraine.
 
SideWinder said:
The only Russian plant to assemble tanks has stopped

The Uralvagonzavod plant and the Chelyabinsk Tractor Plant, which manufacture and repair tanks and other armoured vehicles for the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, have suspended their work.

Work was suspended due to the lack of essential foreign-made components.

:o

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-halts-tank-production-due-supply-problems-ukraine-claims-1690388
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yea and the news source is ukraine, confirmed by ukraine, straight out of kyiv.


I don't get why people think it's any less biased than RT but lap up everything they ever say as gospel.

How much foreign made components does Russia really use on it's tanks? surely they aren't that stupid
 
arknor said:
yea and the news source is ukraine, confirmed by ukraine, straight out of kyiv.

I don't get why people think it's any less biased than RT but lap up everything they ever say as gospel.

How much foreign made components does Russia really use on it's tanks? surely they aren't that stupid
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Judging by the past few weeks, it wouldn't surprise many people tbh.
 
Custor said:
We voted Blair back in after wmd fiasco.
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Despite subsequent recollection Iraq War II wasn't unpopular at the time, enjoying around 2/3rds support from the public. Even by 2005, public opinion wasn't strongly against it, although it probably did have a significant impact on Labour's vote share but since little of the 5.5% that left labour went to the Conservatives - who had, after all, also vocally supported the war - it didn't hurt them all that much.
 
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Minusorange said:
I don't understand why people put him on a pedestal
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Because who he is isn't much reported in Western media beyond the fact he opposes Putin and because we tend to be overly optimistic about the enemies of evil regimes: just look at how Aung San Suu Kyi was lauded before she turned out to be entirely happy to allow a genocide to be carried out against minority Muslims in her country.

Navalny probably would be better than Putin. He said, damning with faint praise.
 
kindai said:
I was thinking about this the other day. We all know Russian tanks are prone to cook off, and in the case of a TOS-1A etc the secondary explosions from the munitions are devastating.

Surely we could find a way to rig up "cheap" off the shelf commercial drones with white phosphorus packages and just suicide run them into the tanks. I would assume hitting any tank near its barrel is going to generate enough heat/enough damage to put the main armament out of use.
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Not really - you could set the tank lube/engine alight. You could use bolas to stick it around the barrel and hope to disfigure the barrel so a round jams in it. The issue with white phosphorous is that it will act like a smoke screen, and the smoke bad for your soldiers and for your tank crew.

Better to make a drone with a shaped copper charge and fragmentation charge. Drone flies over tank, shaped charge goes off taking out the hard armoured target, and the fragmentation charge goes off taking out soft armoured targets nearby.
 
I don't trust anything released by Ukraine news services. Their primary interest now must surely be to drag the west into it. They could literally say anything and people would believe it because everyone loves Ukraine right now.
 
My brother-in-law (Polish wife) spent last week in Poland driving about and helping to re-house various Ukrainian families into new accommodations, thinks he did around 3000 miles across the week and helped 5 families. He got some grief off his wife about the help he's giving and abruptly told her she could find herself/family in a similar situation shortly so have some compassion.

Picked him up from airport the other night and some of the stories i've been hearing about what's been going on, felt pretty choked up, most of of which i'm not really comfortable reposting. Said a few of the families were in tears of thanks for the support they'd received, others had kids that were terrified and shell shocked and barely able to speak. The stadium he was travelling to/from barely had room to walk through, folks sleeping and setting up in what areas they can with what little they've managed to bring with them.

He said most of the support is just charity and time from Polish citizens, the government are doing very little while taking most of the credit publicly. It's one thing seeing images/video on the news, it's another hearing about it from family who've had direct contact with the refugees, hits a little different.
 
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NickK said:
Not really - you could set the tank lube/engine alight. You could use bolas to stick it around the barrel and hope to disfigure the barrel so a round jams in it. The issue with white phosphorous is that it will act like a smoke screen, and the smoke bad for your soldiers and for your tank crew.

Better to make a drone with a shaped copper charge and fragmentation charge. Drone flies over tank, shaped charge goes off taking out the hard armoured target, and the fragmentation charge goes off taking out soft armoured targets nearby.
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But im thinking the weight/drone needed to carry such a device is going to be impractical (and expensive) and most importantly long delays to deploy.

White phos seems to burn at near enough 3000 degrees C, near on double the melting point of steel and self ignites when in contact with the air. A good strike around the turret / barrel connection would do enough damage that even if the tank is still driveable, the main barrel would be unusable / too risky to fire a round down due to potential warping / blowout. For the price of a Phantom 4 drone £1k and a pickle jar filled with white phosphorous you can have an army little suicide drones that can be rapidly acquired and deployed :D
 
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