Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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kindai said:
But im thinking the weight/drone needed to carry such a device is going to be impractical (and expensive) and most importantly long delays to deploy.

White phos seems to burn at near enough 3000 degrees C, near on double the melting point of steel and self ignites when in contact with the air. A good strike around the turret / barrel connection would do enough damage that even if the tank is still driveable, the main barrel would be unusable / too risky to fire a round down due to potential warping / blowout. For the price of a Phantom 4 drone £1k and a pickle jar filled with white phosphorous you can have an army little suicide drones that can be rapidly acquired and deployed :D
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It would depend on the thickness (thus thermal sink) of the energy the white phosphorus / thermite is generating. If the energy the metal can conduct/heatsink away is larger than the WP then it's just going to burn on the top and warm the tank up a bit. I assume the size of payload would be the weight of a grenade so quite difficult to keep a lump and be accurate with it.
 
Minusorange said:
I don't understand why people put him on a pedestal

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021...remlin-foe-moved-on-from-his-nationalist-past
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Most Russians don't want want mass immigration.

They don't want to be islamified and they don't want all their meat replacing with Halal.

In the same way Muslim countries wouldn't want to see all their halal meat replaced with non halal or Christian churches surviving... or Christians in political power.


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how big is my computer screen
 
jpaul said:
uzmanov's london properties so what if they are in trusts - aren't they the proceeds of crime ?
Even if Putin withdrew now, the ramifications for years to come on Ukraine will have rendered it impotent , without some reparatory contributions.
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Presumably, there will be some legal fights over this stuff, I imagine a few Oligarchs (like other rich people) have stuff in trusts/offshore companies. One guy in SC seemed to blame this on the UK government not being swift enough with their sanctions (as if they have a time machine). Similar issues in other countries re: ownership - there is a massive yacht in Italy allegedly belonging to Putin, obviously, Putin wouldn't have such assets in his name.
 
*Belarus Could “Soon” Join War in Ukraine, US and NATO Officials Say — CNN
“Putin needs support. Anything would help,” said one official.
https://twitter.com/jimsciutto/status/1506276466752995334

Some news from the past 2hrs:

*Two of Kremlin Critic Navalny’s Lawyers Detained near the Court After Sentencing – Reuters Witness
*ECB’s Panetta: The Risk of Misuse of Crypto-Assets to Circumvent the Sanctions Against Russia Is an Important Reminder That These Markets Must Be Required to Comply with the Strictest Standards
*ECB’s President Lagarde: Crpyto Assets Are Being Used to Evade Russian Sanctions.
*Algeria and China Signs a Shareholder Agreement to Invest $7 Billion to Produce 5.4 Million Tons of Fertilizer per Year in the Region of Tebessa – Sonatrach Statement
*UN Sec. General Guterres: Ukraine Cannot Be Conquered City by City, Street by Street, House by House, Even If Mauripol Falls.
*UN Secretary-General Guterres: The Ukraine War Is Going Nowhere and Fast.
*UN Sec. General Guterres: The Ukraine War Threatens to Spark a Global Hunger Crisis.
*Two of Kremlin Critic Navalny’s Lawyers Released by Police – Lawyer Tweet
*EU Commission VP Sefcovic: I See Widespread Support for Gas Purchases Among EU States.
*The EU Is Considering Requiring Gas Storage to Be 90% Full by November 1st.
*Poland: It Was Suggested in Meetings with Us Officials That Russia Be Excluded from G20, and This Received a Positive Response.
*US Senate Majority Leader Schumer: This Week, Congress Must Take Next Step to Hold Putin Accountable by Passing a Permanent Normal Trade Relations Bill.
*Ukrainian Deputy PM: A Minumum of 100,000 Civilians Want to Leave Mariupol but Cannot
*Ukrainian Deputy PM: Rescue Workers Unable to Approach Bombed Theatre in Mariupol Due to Shelling
 
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Sankari said:
What exactly am I supposed to be looking at here? Are you under the bizarre misapprehension that I believe Putin's elections are valid and legitimate?
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But you believe opinion polls that give very similar results to the elections are valid and legitimate? Why is that?
 
*EU Companies Affected by Russian Sanctions Can Receive Up to €400,000 in State Aid – EU Document.
*Companies in Agriculture, Fishing, and Aquaculture Can Receive Up to 35,000 Euros in State Help. – EU Document.
*Companies Affected by High Gas and Electricity Prices Can Receive Up to €2 Mln in Aid, Exceeding 30% of Eligible Costs – EU Document.

*Ukraine’s President Zelensky’s Adviser Rodnyansky: ‘No Wiggle Room’ on Territories
*Ukraine’s President Zelensky’s Adviser Rodnyansky: Concerned Putin Not Serious About Ceasefire Talks
*Ukraine’s President Zelensky’s Adviser Rodnyansky: I Hope the World Will Draw a Red Line on Chemical Attacks.

*EU to Set Up Ukraine Post-War Reconstruction Fund, Draft Statement Says
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...ruction-fund-draft-statement-says-2022-03-22/
 
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Custor said:
We voted Blair back in after wmd fiasco.
Unpopular wars that bring a government down are few are far between.
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You might have, I sure didn't!

arknor said:
yea and the news source is ukraine, confirmed by ukraine, straight out of kyiv.

I don't get why people think it's any less biased than RT but lap up everything they ever say as gospel.

How much foreign made components does Russia really use on it's tanks? surely they aren't that stupid
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So you're saying its a lie? If you have any evidence then please say so.

grudas said:
Same thing happened when covid kicked off, Chinese in UK were getting hammered.

I don't quite understand how people justify attacking/hating on random Russians etc for actions/things they have no control over?
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People get angry/frustrated at what they see/hear so lash out at anything remotely connected to it? Dumb is what it is but it happens a couple of people I used to know had russian wives I wonder how they're feeling right now.
 
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dowie said:
Presumably, there will be some legal fights over this stuff, I imagine a few Oligarchs (like other rich people) have stuff in trusts/offshore companies. One guy in SC seemed to blame this on the UK government not being swift enough with their sanctions (as if they have a time machine). Similar issues in other countries re: ownership - there is a massive yacht in Italy allegedly belonging to Putin, obviously, Putin wouldn't have such assets in his name.
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Trusts don't really change ownership - if he/his family are the sole beneficiary then there is a direct link of ownership of the property
 
bingham67 said:
Been saying this for weeks and nothing happens.
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Yeah but a bunch of Belarusian generals quit didn’t they? With soldiers point blank refusing. Or so the rumour mills were saying. Who knows! Figure Putins given his puppy Lukashenko time to get his house in order and join or else.

The clamour for peacekeeper troops from Poland to go in will rise significantly if Belarus join in a meaningful way.
 
*Russian Wagner Group Mercenaries Are in Donbas Region: U.S.
Full thread with more from the Official: https://twitter.com/jseldin/status/1506285814220791815

*Ukraine Energy Minister: In Ukraine, There Is Currently No Electricity Deficit.
*IMF’s Managing Director Georgieva: Ukraine Could See Economy Shrink by One-Third
*IMF’s Managing Director Georgieva: The IMF Will Play a Role in Ukraine’s “Huge” Post-War Reconstruction Endeavour.
*IMF’s Chief Economist Gopinath: The Risk of a Russian Debt Default Would Have a Limited Direct Impact on the Rest of the World.
*European Central Bank Says Russians Use Crypto to Bypass Sanctions – WSJ
IMF speaking Live - https://youtu.be/3xq4c66bNE0

*Portugal’s PM Costa: It Is Urgent to Reduce Value Added Tax on All Energy Products Across EU – RTRS
*Portugal’s PM Costa: We Need Maximum Cap for Gas Reference Price in Order to Avoid ‘Contaminating’ Electricity Price
 
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Custor said:
We voted Blair back in after wmd fiasco.
Unpopular wars that bring a government down are few are far between.
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In fairness, the Tory leader at the time was Michael Howard (one of Thatcher's main flunkies from back in the day). Tony would have had to do a lot more than instigate war crimes on foreign soil to lose to somebody who helped mastermind/force through the "Poll Tax".
 
dowie said:
Possible turning point n the north if this is confirmed and the Ukrainians can hold the territory:




I don't think he is the beneficiary anymore but rather his family is AFAIK.
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Too many POW's?

Well if they don't want to kill them I guess they could maim them to ensure they won't be getting back into the fight at later date, but I suspect that's also too much effort.
 
dowie said:
Possible turning point n the north if this is confirmed and the Ukrainians can hold the territory:


I don't think he is the beneficiary anymore but rather his family is AFAIK.
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You can also be identified as being an individual with significant influence, such as a shareholder but IIRC a direct family member also means it's significant influence?

I mean a trustee is holding properties for a set of beneficiaries - I take it he's not listed as a beneficiary. Perhaps we should make assets held previously by sanctioned individuals also liable, regardless if gifted to a trust.

So many easy options to bypass the HMRC.
 
StriderX said:
Too many POW's?

Well if they don't want to kill them I guess they could maim them to ensure they won't be getting back into the fight at later date, but I suspect that's also too much effort.
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Also against basic human rights. You can send them walking back to the Russian lines under artillery and weapons fire either - again human rights.

I suspect those that are fighting after the initial "cadets" phase, would be seen as Putin puppets branded "war criminals". The danger is - they have a hostile population armed. If they're in a camp, that one big target for revenge and possibly for putin to missile it and claim the west blew up the deserters. If they're sent back to russia then putin will mow them down on the border.
 
Russian warships in the Sea of Azov are firing into Mariupol, a first in the siege

no sign of foreign fighters yet, but Wagner mercenaries are operating in Ukraine

Russian assault on Mykolaiv pushed back, forcing Russians to reposition. [Seems to be the first acknowledgement that the Ukrainians have had success in their Southern counteroffensive]

Few things from Pentagon brief.
 
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