Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

bingham67 · 23 Mar 2022 at 20:23

woppy101 said:
Soon to be seen on the Ukrainian battlefield, ERA equipped T-34s imported from Laos.

Ill give it 5 mins being generous.

RoboCod · 23 Mar 2022 at 20:29

Terminal_Boy said:
Thanks.

Looks like an old Ptarmigan system. **** out of ten for the camouflage effort.

The krashuka is a very capable system for screwing up with radar, GPS and other nav systems. It played hell for western assets in Syria. Having one to dissect is a nice win.

dlockers · 23 Mar 2022 at 20:31

Chris Wilson said:
But also, historically the Russian people gave many, so very many of their lives to supporting us in our fight with Germany, something many seem to conveniently forget. Especially when one in here openly calls them "Slavic peasants", something that grates with me more and more as I consider the sheer unpleasantness of such posts given Russian sacrifices against the nazis.

lol wtf. Man who condemns dragging up folks past to attack them with in todays modern age, is digging up irrelevant facts to make pro Russian speech during Ukraine war? :confused:

bingham67 · 23 Mar 2022 at 20:35

Well that didnt end well for some poor Russian in the back of a Mitsubishi images doing the rounds on Twitter warning rather grim.

Apparently Ukranian paratroopers foiled whatever they was up to.

Turn · 23 Mar 2022 at 20:36

*US Defense Official: The First US Arms Shipment From Biden’s $800 Million Package for Ukraine to Soon Start Heading to Ukraine.
*UK Faces $5 Bln Bill if the Government Has to Bail Out Gazprom Unit.
https://twitter.com/MarketRebels/status/1506730185349021705
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...on-bill-if-government-has-to-bail-out-gazprom

*US Trade Representative Office: 352 of the 549 Product Exclusions Under Consideration From China’s Section 301 Tariffs Will Be Reinstated.
*US Restores 64% of Product Exclusions From Trump China Duties
*USTR: Reintroduced Exclusions Will Be Applicable Retroactively From October 12, 2021 Through December 31, 2022.
*USTR: Reinstated Tariff Exclusions Include Seafood, Certain Chemicals, Textiles, Industrial Components, Electronics and Consumer Goods
'Biden admin said it would allow hundreds of additional goods from China to avoid paying tariffs, renewing waivers for items that were previously granted exemptions under the former Trump admin' - WSJ
https://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-...for-352-types-of-items-from-china-11648067465

*Fox Reporter Tweets: Gov. Gavin Newsom Proposes Sending $400 Debit Cards to California Car Owners in Response to Rising Gas Prices.
*Individual Could Get Up to 2 Payments, Families Who Own More Than One Car Would Be Capped at 2 Cars.
*Eligibility Based on Car Registration, Not Income.
https://twitter.com/ZavalaA/status/1506730001051181059

Chris Wilson · 23 Mar 2022 at 20:49

dLockers said:
lol wtf. Man who condemns dragging up folks past to attack them with in todays modern age, is digging up irrelevant facts to make pro Russian speech during Ukraine war?

I think I have managed to decipher that reply. Being mindful of the estimated 16,825,000 Russian people who gave their lives helping fighting the Germans in WW2, roughly 15 percent of Russia's total population at the time, is not, in my opinion, in any way, a pro Russian speech in support of their current activities.

dlockers · 23 Mar 2022 at 20:51

Chris Wilson said:
I think I have managed to decipher that reply. Being mindful of the estimated 16,825,000 Russian people who gave their lives helping fighting the Germans in WW2, roughly 15 percent of Russia's total population at the time, is not, in my opinion, in any way, a pro Russian speech in support of their current activities.

How is it at all relevant then? Feeling nostalgic?

andybird123 · 23 Mar 2022 at 20:57

Chris Wilson said:
Perhaps Remembrance Sunday will have a deeper meaning after seeing what people have had to endure and fight against in your own lifetime?

But also, historically the Russian people gave many, so very many of their lives to supporting us in our fight with Germany, something many seem to conveniently forget. Especially when one in here openly calls them "Slavic peasants", something that grates with me more and more as I consider the sheer unpleasantness of such posts given Russian sacrifices against the nazis.

And why did they join the war? Because THEY were invaded by Hitler, did they jump in to protect any of the rest of Europe? No, in fact they kept half of it after the war ended and subjected them to all sorts of atrocities themselves.

Chuk_Chuk · 23 Mar 2022 at 20:58

Not directly related but quite a few parallels with what is going on.

Chris Wilson · 23 Mar 2022 at 20:59

dLockers said:
How is it at all relevant then? Feeling nostalgic?

Having gratitude to over sixteen and a half million Russians sacrificing themselves to help us fight the Germans and then finding current posts in here describing their people in general as "Slavic peasants" is relevant to a balanced opinion on Russians in general and not in any way an indulgence in nostalgia. I doubt the average Russian citizen is much changed from then to now.

ChrisLX200 · 23 Mar 2022 at 21:12

Chris Wilson said:
Having gratitude to over sixteen and a half million Russians sacrificing themselves to help us fight the Germans and then finding current posts in here describing their people in general as "Slavic peasants" is relevant to a balanced opinion on Russians in general and not in any way an indulgence in nostalgia. I doubt the average Russian citizen is much changed from then to now.

What BS... they were fighting their OWN war on the eastern front. Many Allied lives were lost trying to get supplies to them.

StriderX · 23 Mar 2022 at 21:17

Was it inaccurate to label most persons under Tsarist and early Soviet rule as peasants? Serfdom had only ended in 1861.

Turn · 23 Mar 2022 at 21:20

*Russian-Drafted Ukraine Aid Resolution Fails at U.N. Security Council – 13 Abstentions, 2 Yes Votes
*China Joins Russia in Backing Its Statement; 13 Nations Abstain
https://twitter.com/michellenichols/status/1506742450580344856 - (Russia and China voted yes)
https://twitter.com/mbesheer/status/1506742631065337856

azazl187 · 23 Mar 2022 at 21:27

0007 said:
*Russian-Drafted Ukraine Aid Resolution Fails at U.N. Security Council – 13 Abstentions, 2 Yes Votes
https://twitter.com/michellenichols/status/1506742450580344856 - (Russia and China voted yes)
https://twitter.com/mbesheer/status/1506742631065337856

What the hell is China upto?!

dowie · 23 Mar 2022 at 21:29

This short thread is worth a quick read:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1506454606104125442

Edit - in addition to the above, the NYT seems to have gone through a bunch of these intercepts, quite interesting:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1506739391254962184

Based:

Rroff · 23 Mar 2022 at 21:33

Hmm Russian military comms very active tonight - can't tell if anything significant but they've been pretty quiet lately.

EDIT: Sounds like they are activating predetermined orders.

Custor · 23 Mar 2022 at 21:33

Chuk_Chuk said:
Not directly related but quite a few parallels with what is going on.

Only too true - sadly.

Custor · 23 Mar 2022 at 21:37

ChrisLX200 said:
What BS... they were fighting their OWN war on the eastern front. Many Allied lives were lost trying to get supplies to them.

They were the Allies.
Christ read a book. Just look at the pictures.

bingham67 · 23 Mar 2022 at 21:40

Rroff said:
Hmm Russian military comms very active tonight - can't tell if anything significant but they've been pretty quiet lately.

EDIT: Sounds like they are activating predetermined orders.

How are you listening to that?

ChrisLX200 · 23 Mar 2022 at 21:44

Custor said:
They were the Allies.
Christ read a book. Just look at the pictures.

Try reading one yourself, Stalin signed a non-aggression pact with Germany and would have done nothing to help had Hitler not attacked Russia in operation Barbarossa.