Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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DrToffnar said:
Interesting. It seems to be a fairly common take that his efforts at diplomacy are more a negative trait then anything.
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His efforts aren't negative, his belief that Putin will honour what he says to him is what's the problem, that and his stupid photo shoot he did trying to dress like Zelensky and his hands in his face like he was facing what Zelensky was facing lol
 
I wonder if Ukraine will go on the offensive now they have given the Russians a bloody nose and are very well tooled up with weaponry.
 
ubersonic said:
That is of course assuming Putin would actually have tried this if Trump was still in power. IMO if Trump had retained the presidency in 2020 then Putin would have had to postpone his invasion until 2024.

After all he took Crimea and part of Donetsk/Luhansk on Obama's watch then during Trump's reign he basically sat on his hands and did nothing except watch Ukraine build up it's defences, that would have been a much better time to strike however he was scared because one of Trump's first military acts was to humiliate Putin and the Russian military in Syria, after which he learnt not to "**** with crazy" again.
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You're delutional. chump Trump is Putin's puppet not the other way about.

Trump would have stayed silent on this and made it difficult for Nato to get involved the way they have.

If I was a betting man I would say Putin was expecting Trump to be reelected, if he was it was widely predicted he would have taken the USA out of NATO leving Putin a free reign.
He went for it anyway and now he's paying the price of a full united NATO.
 
bris said:
You're delutional. chump Trump is Putin's puppet not the other way about.

Trump would have stayed silent on this and made it difficult for Nato to get involved the way they have.

If I was a betting man I would say Putin was expecting Trump to be reelected, if he was it was widely predicted he would have taken the USA out of NATO leving Putin a free reign.
He went for it anyway and now he's paying the price of a full united NATO.
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Trump was a dishonest A-hole with his own dictator tendencies (thankfully limited by our systems checks and balances).....But he was also unpredictable when it came to this kind of stuff. I don't think Putin could have planned for Trump's response because I don't think even Trump knew what he would do until right before he did it.

No reliable way to plan for a Trump response to an invasion.
 
'Latest Defence Intelligence update on the situation in Ukraine - 25 March 2022' ~From 1hr ago

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https://twitter.com/DefenceHQ/status/1507480978553552902
 
DrToffnar said:
Interesting. It seems to be a fairly common take that his efforts at diplomacy are more a negative trait then anything.

I think it's the opposite for me. Futile or not, I think any kind of dialogue is important and him making attempts to keep that channel open is relatively admirable.
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On one hand yeah, there needs to be someone from the West keeping some dialogue with Putin and given that Boris/the UK is enemy number 1 in the eyes of Russia now thanks to all the assistance provided to Ukraine etc.. the UK can't exactly get involved in an evacuation nor are UK ministers likely to get a warm reception from any Russians they talk to.

On the other hand, both France and Germany have been very naive so far, Macron even walked away from a meeting with Putin pre-invasion thinking he'd got a deal for Russian troops to withdraw from the border, he's super keep to play the key role here (and has elections coming). The worry is that France/Germany will try to push Ukraine into settling for some future peace deal they're not so keen on and revert back to something closer to business as usual with Russia.
 
Uther said:
I wonder if Ukraine will go on the offensive now they have given the Russians a bloody nose and are very well tooled up with weaponry.
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In some places they are on the attack. I'm no expert but I suspect Ukraine's deficit in hardware makes it harder to go on an all out offensive. Besides there tactics they have employed so far have worked pretty well for them.
 
Freddie1980 said:
In some places they are on the attack. I'm no expert but I suspect Ukraine's deficit in hardware makes it harder to go on an all out offensive. Besides there tactics they have employed so far have worked pretty well for them.
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That's kinda why they want the tanks (which Boris is trying to persuade NATO to agree to but Macron opposes), this could well end up with a chunk of the east + possible land bridge annexed from Ukraine by Russia.
 
G-MAN2004 said:
Dumb redditors who have gone over there to 'help' have been posting pics to reddit and getting their locations bombed as a result. Just... mind boggling.

Gotta get those upvotes!
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Surely the smart move is to post battlefield updates spoofing your location as where the Russians are, so they shell their own positions...
 
dowie said:
In other news... the stress of the invasion and Putin sperging out at him in fits of steroid-induced rage? Or has the Russian fuhrer had someone slip something into his tea?
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This is old and disproved news isn't it? I thought he'd resurfaced on a live state media broadcast yesterday?

dowie said:
The worry is that France/Germany will try to push Ukraine into settling for some future peace deal they're not so keen on and revert back to something closer to business as usual with Russia.
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I doubt very much that'd they'd be able to pressure Ukraine into settling for anything that wasn't on the cards for them in the first place.
 
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