Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Goodie said:
Bravo sir, this has to win the award for the most amount of tripe fit into a single post on the OCUK forums. Evidence coming through of mass murder and war crimes... yeah but what about the people who did the killing, they must have had a really bad day too...

Beyond belief that anyone can spout such trash.
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Oh come on.

I am not excusing genocide.

I am not condoning dehumanising murder.

I am not justifying slaughtering fellow humans on the grounds of "having a bad day".

I am trying to make a point that behind "Russian uniforms" are human beings. Someone who is loved and loves. Someone who has hopes and dreams.

If we fail to see the person behind the uniform it becomes all to easy to dehumanise them. This includes the "enemy" and that is where genocide starts.

Manipulation and blackmail can force terrible behaviour. If I tell you your family will die unless you obey orders and execute the enemy in cold blood, would you? Who knows what Russian conscripts have been told?

Once again, I am sickened by the evidence of atrocities carried out, but please don't lose track of the tragedy of circumstance on BOTH sides.
 
Hodders said:
Oh come on.

I am not excusing genocide.

I am not condoning dehumanising murder.

I am not justifying slaughtering fellow humans on the grounds of "having a bad day".

I am trying to make a point that behind "Russian uniforms" are human beings. Someone who is loved and loves. Someone who has hopes and dreams.

If we fail to see the person behind the uniform it becomes all to easy to dehumanise them. This includes the "enemy" and that is where genocide starts.

Manipulation and blackmail can force terrible behaviour. If I tell you your family will die unless you obey orders and execute the enemy in cold blood, would you? Who knows what Russian conscripts have been told?

Once again, I am sickened by the evidence of atrocities carried out, but please don't lose track of the tragedy of circumstance on BOTH sides.
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This is like saying, I'm not racist but all lives matter
 
Hodders said:
Oh come on.

I am not excusing genocide.

I am not condoning dehumanising murder.

I am not justifying slaughtering fellow humans on the grounds of "having a bad day".

I am trying to make a point that behind "Russian uniforms" are human beings. Someone who is loved and loves. Someone who has hopes and dreams.

If we fail to see the person behind the uniform it becomes all to easy to dehumanise them. This includes the "enemy" and that is where genocide starts.

Manipulation and blackmail can force terrible behaviour. If I tell you your family will die unless you obey orders and execute the enemy in cold blood, would you? Who knows what Russian conscripts have been told?

Once again, I am sickened by the evidence of atrocities carried out, but please don't lose track of the tragedy of circumstance on BOTH sides.
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Ah so the SS were de humanised before they committed what they did? were the SS just misunderstood?
Did Hitler just need a cup of hot chocolate and fluffy marshmallows to humanise him?

I'm sure Hitler and the SS etc all had caring loved ones and dreams etc, they still very much deserved the hangman.

Your making excuses up for murder and rape that are in excusable.
 
— Bloomberg (CET Time)

*More Civilian Killings Likely, Zelenskiy Says

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*Zelenskiy to Address UN Security Council

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Grim5 said:
This is like saying, I'm not racist but all lives matter
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No it's not.

I'm saying that racism is abhorrent, no child is born prejudiced, failing to see past a skin colour is why whites kill blacks AND blacks kill whites. See PAST the colour, see past the uniform.
 
alchal said:
Ah so the SS were de humanised before they committed what they did? were the SS just misunderstood?
Did Hitler just need a cup of hot chocolate and fluffy marshmallows to humanise him?

I'm sure Hitler and the SS etc all had caring loved ones and dreams etc, they still very much deserved the hangman.

Your making excuses up for murder and rape that are in excusable.
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Please read what I said....

Especially "Manipulation and blackmail can force terrible behaviour. If I tell you your family will die unless you obey orders and execute the enemy in cold blood, would you? Who knows what Russian conscripts have been told?"

Put yourself in that position, what would you do?
 
I was worried things would escalate in violence and it seems they have, Russian soldier in the road, hands tied behind back with bullet wound in head and still barely alive with some agonal breathing, filmed by Ukrainians stupid enough to film themselves shooting another wounded soldier who probably would have died anyway.

It doesn't matter if these things are justified for Ukrainians given what the Russians have done because the problem is it gets used by both sides to just keep escalating the violence for revenge on one another, I'm sure the video I just saw will be used as propaganda for Russia to make Russians hate Ukrainians even more
 
Minusorange said:
I was worried things would escalate in violence and it seems they have, Russian soldier in the road, hands tied behind back with bullet wound in head and still barely alive with some agonal breathing, filmed by Ukrainians stupid enough to film themselves shooting another wounded soldier who probably would have died anyway.

It doesn't matter if these things are justified for Ukrainians given what the Russians have done because the problem is it gets used by both sides to just keep escalating the violence for revenge on one another, I'm sure the video I just saw will be used as propaganda for Russia to make Russians hate Ukrainians even more
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The problem is that the Russians are fed so much BS that it won't really matter as they already see them that way.
 
I've not looked too closely into it as it isn't content I really want to fill too much of my day with but accusations some recent videos involving surrenders and supposedly Ukrainian soldiers carrying out certain acts, etc. have been faked by Kadyrov's forces - people have noticed the same individuals cropping up repeatedly in videos from supposedly different parts of Ukraine, some locations even geolocated to Chechnya and so on.
 
Rroff said:
I've not looked too closely into it as it isn't content I really want to fill too much of my day with but accusations some recent videos involving surrenders and supposedly Ukrainian soldiers carrying out certain acts, etc. have been faked by Kadyrov's forces - people have noticed the same individuals cropping up repeatedly in videos from supposedly different parts of Ukraine, some locations even geolocated to Chechnya and so on.
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Yeah I did think that. Faked by the Russian forces.
 
— Bloomberg (CET Time)

*U.S. Switchblade Drones Will Include Tank Killers

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*Poland, U.S. Set to Sign Deal for Tanks

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0007 said:
— Bloomberg (CET Time)

*U.S. Switchblade Drones Will Include Tank Killers

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*Poland, U.S. Set to Sign Deal for Tanks

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Correction to your article, it's not 10 drones, it's 10 drone Systems - each system contains 10 drones
 
Grim5 said:
Correction to your article, it's not 10 drones, it's 10 drone Systems - each system contains 10 drones
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Are you sure? These 10 drones are in addition to the 100 less powerful version of these drones that have been allocated.
These 10 drones have tank-busting warheads and can travel further.

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*S. Korea’s Finance Minister Hong: South Korea Will Increase Oil Tax Cuts From 20% to 30% to Help Ease Citizens’ Burdens.
*Japan Chief Cabinet Secretary Matsuno: Continue to Consider Appropriate Actions Against Russia, When Asked About Additional Sanctions
*Japan’s PM Kishida: Uncertainty Is Spreading Globally As a Result of the Ukraine Situation.
*Japan’s PM Kishida: We Must Ensure That Price Increases Do Not Impede Recovery.
*Japan’s PM Kishida: During April, We Will Devise Counter-Measures.

*Japan’s Finance Minister Suzuki: We Will Continue Working With Allies on Russia Sanctions.
*Japan: The G7 Foreign Ministers Will Meet in Brussels on Thursday.
*Japan’s Eco. & Trade Min. Hagiuda: The Second Round of IEA-Led Oil Releases From Reserves Is Still Being Finalised.

*BoJ’s Governor Kuroda: Japan’s Economy Is Expected to Recover.
*BoJ’s Governor Kuroda: Due to a Sharp Rise in Energy Prices and the Dissipating Effect of Cellphone Fee Cuts, Japan’s Inflation Will Clearly Accelerate.
*BoJ’s Governor Kuroda: We Are to Maintain Monetary Easing in Order to Aid Economic Recovery
*BoJ’s Governor Kuroda: Inflation Is Expected to Rise Due to Higher Import Costs, Which Could Hurt Japan’s Economy by Reducing Household Income and Corporate Profits.
*Senior BoJ Official: From April Onwards, Consumer Inflation in Japan Is Expected to Remain Around 2%.
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*BoJ’s Uchida: There Are No Plans to Issue a Cbdc at the Moment.
*Senior BoJ Official: Cost-Push Inflation Will Not Be Enough to Sustainably Raise Japan’s Price Growth; However, It May Have an Impact on Trend Inflation by Weighing on the Economy.
*BoJ’s Governor Kuroda: Recent Forex Movements Have Been Quite Rapid, Making It Difficult to Assess the Impact of Fx Intervention.
*BoJ’s Governor Kuroda: Because Forex Movements Have a Significant Impact on Japan’s Economy and Prices, We Will Continue to Monitor Them Closely.
*BoJ’s Governor Kuroda: The Dominant Market View Is That the Recent Dollar/yen Rise Is Fueled by Strong US Growth, Rising US Interest Rates, and Dollar Purchases by Japanese Importers.
*BoJ’s Governor Kuroda: Although It May Not Be a Last Resort, We Will Offer to Buy an Unlimited Number of 10-Year Jgbs if Long-Term Interest Rates Rise Rapidly.
*BoJ’s Governor Kuroda: For the Economy and Prices, Low and Stable Rates Are Required.
*BoJ’s Governor Kuroda: If Investors Lose Faith in Fiscal Policy, Yields Will Rise.
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*BoJ’s Governor Kuroda: From April Onwards, I Believe the Cpi Will Hit 2%.
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*BoJ’s Governor Kuroda: If Yields Rise Above 0.25%, Easing Effects Will Be Reduced.
*BoJ Executive: BoJ’s Risk-Asset Purchases Are Having the Desired Results.
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...racterizes-recent-yen-moves-as-somewhat-rapid


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*The US Treasury Will Not Allow Any Dollar Debt Payments to Be Made From Russian Government Accounts at US Banks — US Spokesperson.
*US Treasury: Russia Will Not Be Allowed to Pay Its Bonds With Cash In US Banks.
*US Cracks Down on Russian Debt Payments, Latest Sovereign Payments Halted — RTRS
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...f-russian-reserves-in-the-u-s-as-war-drags-on
https://www.reuters.com/business/us...-latest-sovereign-payments-halted-2022-04-05/

*US Secretly Conducted Successful Test of a Hypersonic Missile in Mid-March — CNN
https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/04/politics/us-hypersonic-missile-test/index.html

*China-Ukraine Diplomats’ Call Signals Xi May Finally Speak With Zelenskiy — Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...l-signals-xi-may-finally-speak-with-zelenskiy
 
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Hodders said:
Please read what I said....

Especially "Manipulation and blackmail can force terrible behaviour. If I tell you your family will die unless you obey orders and execute the enemy in cold blood, would you? Who knows what Russian conscripts have been told?"

Put yourself in that position, what would you do?
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Sorry, so you are telling me all these Atrocities and the concentration camps can all be put down to threats?

Not a single russian pow has said anything to back this up, do you not think if they had we would all know about it?
Sure Putin etc don't care and possibly want them dead bit to suggest they have a gun against their head making up p*ss poor excuses up.

Nothing but an apologist for war crimes.
 
Only guessing but looks like a bunch of flights with the ident TULxxxx are probably rich Russians getting the **** out - mostly to Dubai. Wonder how the long term will work out for them :s

Also JAKE31 Combat Sent having a good look at Kaliningrad this morning.
 
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