The people will not care as long as they believe the sacrifice is for Mother Russia, we need to stop trying to apply Western logic & mindset into that of Russians, they are wired completely different and many long for a return to the Soviet Union
Even with the excessive news on Russian State TV regarding nukes, it simply means words are all they have now. Their conventional army sucks, so all they can talk about is how great their nukes are in an attempt to make it look like they are still 'a power'.
I would not say a non-issue, there just isn't much new to say about it and slightly less uncertainty than when things first kicked off and it was a complete unknown how Russia would react to Western arming Ukraine.
Russia have stepped back a bit and the US, and NATO generally, have been very careful to caveat future arms deliveries, so from russia's point of view that threat worked.
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17-Jun-2022 07:11:39 - Russian Cenbank Deputy Governor Zabotkin: We Have Room to Calibrate Our Monetary Policy by Usual Means
17-Jun-2022 08:30:00 - Russian Cenbank Deputy Governor Zabotkin, Asked About Possibility of Early off-Schedule Board Meeting, Says We Don’t Reveal Such Plans in Advance
17-Jun-2022 08:30:00 - Russian Cenbank Deputy Governor Zabotkin: Cenbank Hopes Decision on Reintroducing Fiscal Rule Be Made Soon
17-Jun-2022 10:11:50 - Russian Residents Have 6 Trillion Roubles Worth of Foreign Securities Blocked by Recent EU Sanctions in National Settlement Depository — RIA Cites C.bank
17-Jun-2022 10:06:21 - Russian Deputy Prime Minister Novak: We See Turbulence in Global Oil Markets, Uncertainties Over Oil Production Recovery in Iran, Libya, Venezuela
17-Jun-2022 10:06:33 - Russian Deputy Prime Minister Novak: We See Lack of Infrastructure
17-Jun-2022 10:10:28 - Russian Deputy Prime Minister Novak: Agenda of Green Energy Has Been Sidelined
17-Jun-2022 10:21:32 - Russian Deputy Prime Minister Novak: Russian Gas Output Has Been Declining by Up to 5% This Year
17-Jun-2022 10:24:51 - Russian Deputy Prime Minister Novak: Gas Supplies to France May Have Been Disrupted Due To Shortages on Local Market
*EU Commission Recommends Ukraine Be Granted Candidacy Status — BBG
Russia have stepped back a bit and the US, and NATO generally, have been very careful to caveat future arms deliveries, so from russia's point of view that threat worked.
It really depends if Russia ever had any intention to attack a NATO member country, or the Scandinavian countries.
If they didn't, those European countries have significant additional, unforseen, spending of unprovable worth going into a recession.
I'm guessing russia's medium term goal was a quick landgrab in ukraine, and no more than that. They have got a bloody nose, and massive sanctions, as a result but can maybe achieve a limited success on territorial expansion.
My further guess is we're looking at another cyprus/ idlib situation in the medium term.
It really depends if Russia ever had any intention to attack a NATO member country, or the Scandinavian countries.
If they didn't, those European countries have significant additional, unforseen, spending of unprovable worth going into a recession.
I'm guessing russia's medium term goal was a quick landgrab in ukraine, and no more than that. They have got a bloody nose, and massive sanctions, as a result but can maybe achieve a limited success on territorial expansion.
My further guess is we're looking at another cyprus/ idlib situation in the medium term.
I don't buy a quick land grab - looking at the composition of equipment built up they were banking on it going somewhat like Crimea IMO, thinking it would be largely bloodless with Ukraine putting down their weapons when met by force with just a few hold out army groups or individual cities that they intended to encircle and pummel into submission with heavy artillery. Allowing Russia to quickly install a puppet regime in Kyiv.
It really depends if Russia ever had any intention to attack a NATO member country, or the Scandinavian countries.
If they didn't, those European countries have significant additional, unforseen, spending of unprovable worth going into a recession.
I'm guessing russia's medium term goal was a quick landgrab in ukraine, and no more than that. They have got a bloody nose, and massive sanctions, as a result but can maybe achieve a limited success on territorial expansion.
My further guess is we're looking at another cyprus/ idlib situation in the medium term.
I'm 100% sure Russia didn't expect the Ukranian resistance, didn't expect "the west" to suddenly care so much about Ukraine or the massive sanctions.
Also 100% sure Russia has no plans to attack a NATO country. Putin lost his pet president and wanted to seize control again. I'm sure he dreams about collecting the ex-soviet states.
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17-Jun-2022 11:00:00 - Kremlin, Asked About Efforts to Export Ukrainian Grain With Turkey’s Assistance, Says Contacts Ongoing, Still a Lot of Uncertainties on Ukrainian Side
17-Jun-2022 10:55:27 - German Economy Ministry Spokesperson: France Being Cut Off From Gas From Germany Logical Consequence Of Russia Reducing Gas Flows
17-Jun-2022 10:59:13 - German Economy Ministry Spokesperson, on Gas: Still Receiving Some Gas From Northern and Western Europe, Gas Storage Still Being Filled
17-Jun-2022 11:00:13 - German Govt Spokesperson: Chancellor Scholz Shares View That Reduced Gas Deliveries From Russia Politically Motivated
17-Jun-2022 11:02:08 - German Economy Ministry Spokesperson: In Touch With Canada to Figure Out if Sanctions Mechanism Applies to Siemens Turbines
17-Jun-2022 11:08:31 - German Economy Ministry Spokesperson: Security of Gas Supply Still Remains Stable
17-Jun-2022 11:02:12 - EU’s von Der Leyen: EU Commission Proposes Ukraine Become EU Membership Candidate
17-Jun-2022 11:02:36 - EU’s von Der Leyen: This Is on Understanding That Ukraine Carry Out Number of Reforms
17-Jun-2022 11:05:35 - EU’s Sinkevicius: Proposes Moldova Become EU Membership Candidate
17-Jun-2022 11:06:31 - EU’s Sinkevicius: Georgia Must First Meet Conditions Before Receiving Recommendation on Membership Candidacy
17-Jun-2022 11:10:26 - EU’s von Der Leyen: Georgia’s EU Application Has Strength, Must Now Come Together Politically
17-Jun-2022 11:24:48 - Ukraine Is Grateful for European Commission Proposing to Grant It EU Candidate Status, Expects EU Leaders to Approve — Head of Ukraine President’s Office
17-Jun-2022 11:37:16 - Ukraine President Zelenskiy: European Commission Proposal to Grant Ukraine EU Candidate Status Will “Certainly Bring Our Victory Closer”
17-Jun-2022 12:08:55 - Moldova’s President: Welcomes European Commission Recommending Moldova Get EU Candidate Status, Expects Recommendation to Be Approved Next Week (Removes Repetition)
17-Jun-2022 12:11:17 - Moldova’s President: The Country Will Put More Efforts Into Implementing Justice Reforms, Fight Corruption
17-Jun-2022 11:51:24 - Kremlin: St Petersburg Economic Forum Suffered Denial of Service Cyberattack, Putin to Delay Speech by an Hour
17-Jun-2022 11:56:50 - Turkey’s Erdogan: Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed Bin Salman Will Visit Turkey on June 22
17-Jun-2022 12:21:33 - Ukraine President Zelenskiy: Ukraine to Bring in Visa Requirement for Russians Entering Ukraine
17-Jun-2022 11:02:12 - EU’s von Der Leyen: EU Commission Proposes Ukraine Become EU Membership Candidate
17-Jun-2022 11:02:36 - EU’s von Der Leyen: This Is on Understanding That Ukraine Carry Out Number of Reforms
17-Jun-2022 11:05:35 - EU’s Sinkevicius: Proposes Moldova Become EU Membership Candidate
17-Jun-2022 11:06:31 - EU’s Sinkevicius: Georgia Must First Meet Conditions Before Receiving Recommendation on Membership Candidacy
17-Jun-2022 11:10:26 - EU’s von Der Leyen: Georgia’s EU Application Has Strength, Must Now Come Together Politically
17-Jun-2022 11:24:48 - Ukraine Is Grateful for European Commission Proposing to Grant It EU Candidate Status, Expects EU Leaders to Approve — Head of Ukraine President’s Office
17-Jun-2022 11:37:16 - Ukraine President Zelenskiy: European Commission Proposal to Grant Ukraine EU Candidate Status Will “Certainly Bring Our Victory Closer”
17-Jun-2022 12:08:55 - Moldova’s President: Welcomes European Commission Recommending Moldova Get EU Candidate Status, Expects Recommendation to Be Approved Next Week (Removes Repetition)
17-Jun-2022 12:11:17 - Moldova’s President: The Country Will Put More Efforts Into Implementing Justice Reforms, Fight Corruption
Mind you, there is more incentive for some countries than others to sort themselves into meeting standards. Like Russia invading specifically because you have no one backing you up.
I don't buy a quick land grab - looking at the composition of equipment built up they were banking on it going somewhat like Crimea IMO, thinking it would be largely bloodless with Ukraine putting down their weapons when met by force with just a few hold out army groups or individual cities that they intended to encircle and pummel into submission with heavy artillery. Allowing Russia to quickly install a puppet regime in Kyiv.
Yeah, pretty much agree. I don't think Russia expected much resistance, particularly in the east. I think they expected a swift capitulation, with little time for external actors to act.
That's what I meant by a quick landgrab. Sorry, i could have been clearer.
I'm 100% sure Russia didn't expect the Ukranian resistance, didn't expect "the west" to suddenly care so much about Ukraine or the massive sanctions.
Also 100% sure Russia has no plans to attack a NATO country. Putin lost his pet president and wanted to seize control again. I'm sure he dreams about collecting the ex-soviet states.
As I said, I'm expecting Russia to hold a chunk of Ukraine for the foreseeable. I think Russia may have designs on increasing that in the short-term, but there will come a point where they will be content to cease their "special operation".
It's anyone's guess when and where Russia might decide to consolidate, but I think they will have already given up on kiev and odesa.
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