They are taking territory, but what are they gaining exactly? They have absolutely decimated area's due to the way they just shell everything to pieces and move in. They would bankrupt themselves as a country trying to rebuild Ukraine if they 'win'.
I think it kind of has, but not in the way people wanted to see, it looks like a long protracted war is increasingly on the cards unless Ukraine can utterly exhaust the ability for Russia to fight on.
One has to wonder just how and why those ***** have both of those flags up there in the first place. Perhaps it's time to send them home, Drummer style.
Another one few hours ago, train carrying ammo blown up by rocket/missle while in Donetsk train station.
And Russia seems to be getting more desperate about the Kerch bridge in Crimea, they have now positioned smoke machines and corner deflection mirrors in an attempt to stop Ukraine using HIMARS to destroy the bridge. It might just be copium; is a mirror and some smoke really going to stop HIMARS hitting its target??
And Russia seems to be getting more desperate about the Kerch bridge in Crimea, they have now positioned smoke machines and corner deflection mirrors in an attempt to stop Ukraine using HIMARS to destroy the bridge. It might just be copium; is a mirror and some smoke really going to stop HIMARS hitting its target??
Not with HIMARs unless the US decide to give them the longer range munitions
In terms of the -- the range of the systems, the GMLRS that we're providing for the HIMARS have a 70 kilometer range. So they actually can reach any area of Ukrainian territory where you would have Russian forces that the Ukrainians are seeking to target. So we see this as -- as a highly capable system for their operating environment.
Q: I'm -- I'm sorry but from the lines in-- in-- in eastern -- in eastern Ukraine to get close -- even close to the Russian border it's more like 150, 160 kilometers. That's said -- that puts the Russian supply lines, essential supply lines out of range.
SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: All I can say is, you know, I've -- I've looked at this in terms of the placement of these HIMARS and the position of -- of Russian forces and Russian targets, and they are reachable.
Q: And just one point, it also puts Russian targets -- targets in Crimea out of range.
SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIAL: Again, I'll just -- I'll just stand by my initial points that, you know, at the 70 kilometer --
They are taking territory, but what are they gaining exactly? They have absolutely decimated area's due to the way they just shell everything to pieces and move in. They would bankrupt themselves as a country trying to rebuild Ukraine if they 'win'.
They won't rebuild, they want the crops and minerals but do not care about the people or what they want, this is Putin and Russia, citizens outside the rich elite are not a priority.
They won't rebuild, they want the crops and minerals but do not care about the people or what they want, this is Putin and Russia, citizens outside the rich elite are not a priority.
*NATO Secretary-General Stoltenberg Announced The Start Of The Ratification Process For Finland And Sweden
*Russia’s Medvedev: Japanese Proposal to Cap Russian Oil Price Will Lead to Higher Oil Prices Globally
*Russia’s Medvedev: Oil Prices Could Rise to Over $300-$400 per Barrel
*Russia’s Medvedev: Japan Will Have Neither Oil nor Gas From Russia As a Result
In a way, but Russia takes it to the extreme, we might be burdened with some donkeys but they pale in comparison to Putin's regime, gay rights etc, people's land is taken without compensation etc
When was the last time we poisoned opposition leaders and basketball players who don't tow the party line?
And Russia seems to be getting more desperate about the Kerch bridge in Crimea, they have now positioned smoke machines and corner deflection mirrors in an attempt to stop Ukraine using HIMARS to destroy the bridge. It might just be copium; is a mirror and some smoke really going to stop HIMARS hitting its target??
*Kremlin: Media Reports About Chinese President Xi Jinping’s Refusal to Visit Russia Are Not True
*Kremlin: Russia Is Analyzing Measures to Lift the Illegal Blockade of Its Overseas Accounts
*Russia’s Defence Minister: The Russian Military Will Complete All Tasks; The Priority Now Is to Protect the Lives and Health of Russian Soldiers and Civilians
*Russia’s Defence Minister: Conscripts Are Not Being Sent to Ukraine As Part of ‘Special Military Operation’ — TASS
*Russia’s Defence Minister: Some Weapons Supplied by West to Ukraine End Up on ‘Black Market’ and in Middle East — RIA
*UniCredit Is Considering a Russia Exit That It Can Reverse After the War — BBG
*International Conference Adopts Lugano Principles to Steer Ukraine Recovery
*Lugano Declaration Condemns Military Aggression of Russian Federation Against Ukraine in “The Strongest Terms”
*Lugano Declaration Urges Russia to Withdraw Its Troops From Ukrainian Territory Without Delay
*Lugano Declaration Fully Commits to Supporting Ukraine Throughout Its Path From Early to Long-Term Recovery
*Lugano Principles on Ukraine Reconstruction Include Commitment to Reform, Democratic Participiation, Transparency
*NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg: Sees ‘Months’ for NATO Ratification Process — BBG
*NATO Secretary General Stoltenberg: Sweden And Finland Will Be Considered Invited Countries From July 5 To Participate In NATO Affairs
*Separatist Leader: Separatist Forces Are Being Moved in Direction of Donetsk After ‘Liberating’ Luhansk Region of Ukraine — TASS
*Separatist Official: Ukrainian Forces Should Be Pushed Back to Kyiv Region so Their Missile Can’t Strike Donbas — RIA
So how long before NATO troops go into Ukraine to fight Russia since Ukraine is even with all of NATOs help still losing ground.
Can't be long now, Putin will not want more than Donbass and then that will be a Russian victory as holding ground is far easier than taking it.
This is making NATO members pretty desperate as they cannot afford a Russian victory after investing so much and destroying their own economies over this war.
This also explains why Russia has been holding back a lot of its latest tech, incase of NATO involvement.
It's ridiculous that the regulars of this thread are still posting about Ukraine victories as if Ukraine is winning the war.
*Separatist Leader: Separatist Forces Are Being Moved in Direction of Donetsk After ‘Liberating’ Luhansk Region of Ukraine — TASS
*Separatist Official: Ukrainian Forces Should Be Pushed Back to Kyiv Region so Their Missile Can’t Strike Donbas — RIA
Getting them to work longer hours is not going to be received well by the poor Russians , also it shows that there is a serious supply problem in Russia.
So how long before NATO troops go into Ukraine to fight Russia since Ukraine is even with all of NATOs help still losing ground.
Can't be long now, Putin will not want more than Donbass and then that will be a Russian victory as holding ground is far easier than taking it.
This is making NATO members pretty desperate as they cannot afford a Russian victory after investing so much and destroying their own economies over this war.
This also explains why Russia has been holding back a lot of its latest tech, incase of NATO involvement.
It's ridiculous that the regulars of this thread are still posting about Ukraine victories as if Ukraine is winning the war.
The west Economies are not destroyed, where did you pluck that from.
Just because the Russians are advancing a little you think they are losing, things turn around when you least expect it.
Russia has got itself into a very big mess, there no chance they will keep those lands.
*Russian Rouble Extends Losses, Tumbles Past 61 vs Dollar, Losing More Than 10% on the Day
*Blinken to Meet With Chinese Foreign Minister at G-20 This Week — Washington Post
*Blinken Expected to Underscore Biden Admin’s Desire That China Continue to Refrain From Providing Arms to Russia or Helping It Evade Sanctions
*Blinken’s Meeting With Chinese Foreign Minister Would Focus in Part on War in Ukraine
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