Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar

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Chris Wilson said:
It seems the EU are now wanting the UK to embrace them again
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The EU never stopped wanting the UK to be with them. It was the UK that decided she didn't need the EU, remember? The catastrophic fallout from Brexit has really exposed the stupidity of that decision.

Chris Wilson said:
I wonder how long the EU citizens will tolerate matters before they decide it's every man for himself?
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Not gonna happen.

Chris Wilson said:
The Czechs are demonstrating en masse already for them to make friends with Russia again.
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Not gonna happen. The Czech government strongly supports Ukraine. They've experienced enough of Russia's treachery to know she can't be trusted. The demonstrators aren't even reflective of the average Czech, they're extremists from the populist and communist parties.
 
Sankari said:
The EU never stopped wanting the UK to be with them. It was the UK that decided she didn't need the EU, remember? The catastrophic fallout from Brexit has really exposed the stupidity of that decision.



Not gonna happen.



Not gonna happen. The Czech government strongly supports Ukraine. They've experienced enough of Russia's treachery to know she can't be trusted. The demonstrators aren't even reflective of the average Czech, they're extremists from the populist and communist parties.
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Time will tell, let's revisit this in a few months...
 
Chris Wilson said:
It seems the EU are now wanting the UK to embrace them again and join them in trying to acquire winter energy supplies. I hope Mrs. Truss remembers the vaccine debacle and tells them to go forth.

I wonder how long the EU citizens will tolerate matters before they decide it's every man for himself? The Czechs are demonstrating en masse already for them to make friends with Russia again.
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Lol, en masse, do tell me how many.
 
Rroff said:
For many years Putin played a shrewd game on the international stage - events of late 2021 and 2022 are uncharacteristic compared to how he has operated in the past - maybe due to miscalculating based on faulty intelligence and the belief that they could replay Crimea 2014 over again, maybe due to feeling the pressure of time, age and/or health, but personally I don't think there is enough consideration that this is the same Putin and we aren't seeing the bigger picture whether relative to Ukraine or a wider play.

The build up to this invasion was a charade and while there is a lot of truths to the state of the Russian military I think somewhat they are playing a charade of desperation there and people are lapping it up because it is what they want to see and believe, maybe partly because it would indicate this might be over sooner rather than later - personally I'd be a lot more cautious to the longer term.

That said IMO Russia is at a crossroads and Putin's recent interactions with the likes of Iran and North Korea have been more about sounding out their allies and their level of support and backing will have huge implications IMO on Putin's decision making as to where this war is going.
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Personally I think we'll tbh it's obvious the biggest factor in this war isn't anything to do with Putin getting things wrong but more to do with the Wests response this time. Without NATO fully supporting Ukrain with far superior weapons and tons of support the war would have no doubt have taken a very different direction...

Now don't get me wrong I know Putin's "superpower" status turned out to be very much exaggerated but things would still have been very different. Intelligence support, training and superior weapons have made this possible for Ukrain along with the very lucky fact that Russian armour was very badly maintained. Without this support from NATOI really do believe Ukraine would have fallen.
 
StriderX said:
Just about the only way they could do any serious damage to Kerch bridge is if they load an articulated lorry with bombs (preferably captured Russian ones for the irony) and hope they can get lucky with bored guards or empty checkpoints, unfortunately it's an almost guaranteed suicide mission.
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They might be able to do it with HIMARS, if they can get close enough via water. But that would still be a huge risk.
 
bris said:
Personally I think we'll tbh it's obvious the biggest factor in this war isn't anything to do with Putin getting things wrong but more to do with the Wests response this time. Without NATO fully supporting Ukrain with far superior weapons and tons of support the war would have no doubt have taken a very different direction...

Now don't get me wrong I know Putin's "superpower" status turned out to be very much exaggerated but things would still have been very different. Intelligence support, training and superior weapons have made this possible for Ukrain along with the very lucky fact that Russian armour was very badly maintained. Without this support from NATOI really do believe Ukraine would have fallen.
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Certainly a large factor in Russia's miscalculations has been thinking the West had become weak and soft and would likely be mired in months or years of infighting over how to approach the situation let alone providing material support. It doesn't really explain Putin's approach though.

Another potential explanation is his hand was forced by those within the Russian military, security and/or government machine and he really thought he was launching a limited operation while those elements dropped him in a bigger war for their own agenda(s) - but I don't really believe that and I'd have thought heads would have rolled by now in a very significant way as Putin still has the agency to stamp his authority firmly in place over any such attempt.

StriderX said:
Just about the only way they could do any serious damage to Kerch bridge is if they load an articulated lorry with bombs (preferably captured Russian ones for the irony) and hope they can get lucky with bored guards or empty checkpoints, unfortunately it's an almost guaranteed suicide mission.
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In a completely theoretical line of thought or guerilla warfare style clear the path with truck bombs, etc. rather than hoping to get lucky with border points, etc. potentially using high tech aids in this day and age such as remote controlled trucks to minimise the suicide aspect (though a small team would still need to be present and at extremely high risk). Obviously would bring a lot of attention to itself on route potentially with Russia responding in time to fortify bridge access.
 
Sankari said:
They might be able to do it with HIMARS, if they can get close enough via water. But that would still be a huge risk.
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There was a document (no idea if real) that suggested Ukraine was getting ATACMS which would put it almost in range of land strikes from Ukraine territory.

It would be a huge reality check for Russians in Crimea. They're not going to get a pontoon bridge across the strait.
 
StriderX said:
Just about the only way they could do any serious damage to Kerch bridge is if they load an articulated lorry with bombs (preferably captured Russian ones for the irony) and hope they can get lucky with bored guards or empty checkpoints, unfortunately it's an almost guaranteed suicide mission.
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Hit the same point often enough and it will break. If they want the bridge damaged it will happen
 
Rroff said:
Hope they have the manpower and/or momentum to hold these gains.
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It doesn't sound like they've allocated too much resources into it, maybe 1 or 2 BTGs.

Gains mostly seem to be that they identified a weak spot where the defensive line was thin, blitzed through it and that allowed them to keep pushing almost unhindered deeper into russian territory. No doubt the Russians will be sending reinforcements now
 
Rroff said:
Certainly a large factor in Russia's miscalculations has been thinking the West had become weak and soft and would likely be mired in months or years of infighting over how to approach the situation let alone providing material support. It doesn't really explain Putin's approach though.

Another potential explanation is his hand was forced by those within the Russian military, security and/or government machine and he really thought he was launching a limited operation while those elements dropped him in a bigger war for their own agenda(s) - but I don't really believe that and I'd have thought heads would have rolled by now in a very significant way as Putin still has the agency to stamp his authority firmly in place over any such attempt.



In a completely theoretical line of thought or guerilla warfare style clear the path with truck bombs, etc. rather than hoping to get lucky with border points, etc. potentially using high tech aids in this day and age such as remote controlled trucks to minimise the suicide aspect (though a small team would still need to be present and at extremely high risk). Obviously would bring a lot of attention to itself on route potentially with Russia responding in time to fortify bridge access.
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I think you're right not to believe others are guiding this it's his baby. Heads rolling? A lot of heads have rolled, look at how may have mysteriously died, suicides and mysteriously fallen out of windows.
Putin is cleaning house, anyone who even whispers criticism if found dead. Generals sacked left right and centre.

It's not going well for him I just hope there is someone there to stop him doing anything stupid, like mass destruction stupid.
 
Grim5 said:
It doesn't sound like they've allocated too much resources into it, maybe 1 or 2 BTGs.

Gains mostly seem to be that they identified a weak spot where the defensive line was thin, blitzed through it and that allowed them to keep pushing almost unhindered deeper into russian territory. No doubt the Russians will be sending reinforcements now
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The problem for the Russians is that their counter-attacks have been hasty reactions from mostly inept commanders which have seemingly involved just throwing troops into attacks only to face even more attrition and see the Ukrainians hold their gains.
 
bris said:
I think you're right not to believe others are guiding this it's his baby. Heads rolling? A lot of heads have rolled, look at how may have mysteriously died, suicides and mysteriously fallen out of windows.
Putin is cleaning house, anyone who even whispers criticism if found dead. Generals sacked left right and centre.

It's not going well for him I just hope there is someone there to stop him doing anything stupid, like mass destruction stupid.
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The heads which are rolling tend to be a different set and not to the extent either compared to what I'd expect to see if Putin had been undermined and his hand forced into this war - but the comparative difference to these events vs how he has historically operated does make me ponder the possibility if he was in some way undermined into this situation. (EDIT: On the other hand if he had been pushed into this situation I'd have expected to see at least some holding open of off-ramp possibilities, if not taking them, rather than being so dismissive of any such possibility as he has been).

EDIT: I've not had much sleep and keep having to check I typed Putin instead of Hitler LOL.
 
Grim5 said:
It doesn't sound like they've allocated too much resources into it, maybe 1 or 2 BTGs.

Gains mostly seem to be that they identified a weak spot where the defensive line was thin, blitzed through it and that allowed them to keep pushing almost unhindered deeper into russian territory. No doubt the Russians will be sending reinforcements now
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Which probably means opening up other weak points elsewhere as well as no longer being under the protection of bunkers so fresh meat for Ukrainian air support and artillery.
 
dowie said:
The problem for the Russians is that their counter-attacks have been hasty reactions from mostly inept commanders which have seemingly involved just throwing troops into attacks only to face even more attrition and see the Ukrainians hold their gains.
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Russia seems to have a very poor understanding of the battlefield so continue to make bad choices, Ukraine on the otherhand have excellent intelligence / situational awareness thanks to NATO and no doubt benefit massively from the UK / US recent / historical conflict experience, planning and strategy.
 
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