Energy Prices (Strictly NO referrals!)

I think I need to look at our electric consumption seeing all these people using 6/7Kwh per day electric. There are only 2 of us and yet we still use around 9-10kw per day. Okay my other half works from home so PC will be on for 8 hours plus then mine will be on an hour or so on an evening.

All our lights are LED.

TV is a new OLED so shouldn't use much.

Washing machine, dishwasher and dryer will be our three worst culprits along with electric oven but thats not used every day as we use the air fryer when we can.
Unless its a modern heat-pump tumble drier, that is almost certainly going to be your biggest suspect. The other two should be run on an Eco wash too if you can plan in advance for the time required
 
You keep comparing your situation to those on fixed rates. "Unusual tariffs" will have to have their own form of assistance, if any.

I wasn't comparing my situation to those on fixed rates at all. I was debating whether to drop off the tracker ("fixed" at max of 16p) to the government cap since it's only slightly more expensive. No comparison to any fixed rates.

Then in your response where you unnecessarily pointed out that I wasn't on a fix, I reiterated that - since it was only ~14% higher than the government capped rates - it was worth taking into account the possibility of it dropping when deciding whether to stay on the Tracker or switch to the govt. capped SVR, as this would reduce the difference further. In case you missed it:

it's potentially worth taking into consideration when deciding whether to stay on it or not. If my gas usage under the tracker was to average 11.112p then I would be at the break even point.

I even then explicitly stated that this would (obviously) depend on what happened with any promised discounts for fixed rates, and also acknowledged that it was currently up in the air with regards to more unusual tariffs (such as Tracker and Go). I'll quote myself again in case you missed this bit too:

Obviously that depends on what happens with regards to the promised discounts for fixed rates (and whether they apply to the more unusual tariffs such as Tracker and Go)

Not sure why you're arguing this unless you're trying to score "internet points" for some reason? :confused:
 
So fair this month we are averaging 7kWh for both energy types, surprised at gas as we don't always use the cooker, and other than that the boiler turns on for 20mins in the morning and 20mins in the evening to top up the tank.
 
I think I need to look at our electric consumption seeing all these people using 6/7Kwh per day electric. There are only 2 of us and yet we still use around 9-10kw per day. Okay my other half works from home so PC will be on for 8 hours plus then mine will be on an hour or so on an evening.

All our lights are LED.

TV is a new OLED so shouldn't use much.

Washing machine, dishwasher and dryer will be our three worst culprits along with electric oven but thats not used every day as we use the air fryer when we can.
Eugh we are hitting about 20kWh per day electric at the moment, 4 bed house.

Mitigating circumstance is that there are 5 adults in the house and 3 kids (in laws are staying for a few months), but even then this feels high.

We have no EV, all LED lights, haven't used tumble dryer since March. I think the culprit is the Everhot cooker which our in-laws kindly gifted us about 3 months ago as they moved out of their house and didn't have space in new one. It replaced our aging Rangemaster, which we inherited with the house when we bought it a year ago. The Everhot was something like 8k new, so brilliant to inherit, but being electrically powered I think it may bankrupt us. It's one of those always on ones, like an aga. If you turn it down to try and save energy, it just draws a heck tonne of power to get back up to heat. Reading through all the user manual it boasts about marvellous energy efficiency due to trickle feed technology, but in reality that's a load of marketing guff. They call themselves the most energy efficient range cooker on the market.

Didn't do enough homework to be able to refuse it before it got installed at ours whilst I was offshore with work and so it's a bit too late to do anything about it. At least I can stand in the kitchen and have a warm bum.

Interested to hear if anyone else has one, or similar like electric aga.
 
I've been doing some calculations based on the alleged figures that are on moneysavirngexpert as to what's expected.

This is a typical summer month for me, the three figures are pre-April 2022, post April 2022 and post October 2022.
£93.14 / £169.40 / £209.43

And this a typical winter month.
£156.61 / £314.53 / £421.16

I'm hoping it'll be lower than that, we've been reducing the amount of energy used and I've also been overpaying a bit, just to increase the amount the account is in credit.

Really need Shell to confirm the updated charges.
 
Eugh we are hitting about 20kWh per day electric at the moment, 4 bed house.

Mitigating circumstance is that there are 5 adults in the house and 3 kids (in laws are staying for a few months), but even then this feels high.

We have no EV, all LED lights, haven't used tumble dryer since March. I think the culprit is the Everhot cooker which our in-laws kindly gifted us about 3 months ago as they moved out of their house and didn't have space in new one. It replaced our aging Rangemaster, which we inherited with the house when we bought it a year ago. The Everhot was something like 8k new, so brilliant to inherit, but being electrically powered I think it may bankrupt us. It's one of those always on ones, like an aga. If you turn it down to try and save energy, it just draws a heck tonne of power to get back up to heat. Reading through all the user manual it boasts about marvellous energy efficiency due to trickle feed technology, but in reality that's a load of marketing guff. They call themselves the most energy efficient range cooker on the market.

Didn't do enough homework to be able to refuse it before it got installed at ours whilst I was offshore with work and so it's a bit too late to do anything about it. At least I can stand in the kitchen and have a warm bum.

Interested to hear if anyone else has one, or similar like electric aga.
i dont think that is too bad considering the number in your home. cooking and washing and showering for 8 people is going to use a lot of power.
 
Eugh we are hitting about 20kWh per day electric at the moment, 4 bed house.

Mitigating circumstance is that there are 5 adults in the house and 3 kids (in laws are staying for a few months), but even then this feels high.

We have no EV, all LED lights, haven't used tumble dryer since March. I think the culprit is the Everhot cooker which our in-laws kindly gifted us about 3 months ago as they moved out of their house and didn't have space in new one. It replaced our aging Rangemaster, which we inherited with the house when we bought it a year ago. The Everhot was something like 8k new, so brilliant to inherit, but being electrically powered I think it may bankrupt us. It's one of those always on ones, like an aga. If you turn it down to try and save energy, it just draws a heck tonne of power to get back up to heat. Reading through all the user manual it boasts about marvellous energy efficiency due to trickle feed technology, but in reality that's a load of marketing guff. They call themselves the most energy efficient range cooker on the market.

Didn't do enough homework to be able to refuse it before it got installed at ours whilst I was offshore with work and so it's a bit too late to do anything about it. At least I can stand in the kitchen and have a warm bum.

Interested to hear if anyone else has one, or similar like electric aga.

Energy Costs Are So High Aga Owners Are Ripping Out £5,000 Cookers

Britain’s cost of living crisis is claiming another casualty: the Aga.

More and more families are removing their Agas as rocketing energy prices make the cast-iron ovens expensive to operate. Originally designed to burn coal and be switched on 24/7, the Aga is an energy guzzler and now even owners of more modern electric models are finding them too costly.

Jack O’Dwyer, a Blackpool-based oven remover, has taken out 35 Agas this year and received at least 100 phone calls from people across the country looking to sell. Others are seeking to have them removed for free as they can’t afford the roughly £500 ($579) charge to remove them.

O’Dwyer says he won’t buy Agas from their owners as he isn’t confident he could find a buyer. One recent client was paying £10 a day to run her brand new electric Aga and had it removed after just six months, he says.

“It’s always a dream come true for people to have them but it’s just crucifying that they can’t hold onto them,” said O’Dwyer. “£70 a week is outrageous for a cooker.”

Aga Origin​

The Aga was originally designed in Sweden but has a huge following in the UK, with some owners naming their ovens and considering them part of the family. Available in a range of colors, Agas can have as many as five ovens at different temperatures and two hobs.

The unusual always-on functionality lets them use indirect radiant heat to cook food and means you don’t have to wait for an oven to preheat. They have been made in Telford, England, since the 1940s and are a status symbol in rural family homes.

A Facebook group entitled I love my Aga! has 16,800 members and currently the community is sharing advice on how best to save energy while running the appliance. O’Dwyer has seen owners moved to tears when he’s had to remove their beloved Aga.

Julie Bradbury, a married mother of two in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, is studying how much energy her electric Aga uses in order to decide whether to keep it. Even with a new package of support for households from Liz Truss’s government, her energy costs have still doubled since this time last year “which isn’t inconsequential,” she said.

“It’s not just an oven,” said Bradbury, who uses her Aga, dubbed ‘The Blue Baby’ for its duck egg hue, to dry laundry and iron clothes. “Agas become a significant part of your life. It would be a big loss.”
 
It varies day to day but August was.
208.72 kWh Electric
34.47 kWh Gas (3.02m3)

jesus, there's only two of us and we average more like ~100kWh a week of gas in summer for only hob and heating hot water cylinder. you're somehow using the same as we use in 3 days in 30 days. I can't get my head around that.
 
jesus, there's only two of us and we average more like ~100kWh a week of gas in summer for only hob and heating hot water cylinder. you're somehow using the same as we use in 3 days in 30 days. I can't get my head around that.
To be fair, yours is pretty excessive.

My gas usage is ~ 7kWh / day for a family of four over the summer too. I'm guessing its an old boiler, a poorly / old insulated tank or a combination of both
 
I've been doing some calculations based on the alleged figures that are on moneysavirngexpert as to what's expected.

This is a typical summer month for me, the three figures are pre-April 2022, post April 2022 and post October 2022.
£93.14 / £169.40 / £209.43

And this a typical winter month.
£156.61 / £314.53 / £421.16

I'm hoping it'll be lower than that, we've been reducing the amount of energy used and I've also been overpaying a bit, just to increase the amount the account is in credit.

Really need Shell to confirm the updated charges.
Wow I feel good about ours then.

Our usage was on fixed so pre and post april the same, £64 per month all year round. post April thats going to be just under £200 per month so triple.
 
Looking at Ocotpus and since the AVRO cluster**** (why they are not in prison) I have used

Elec - 1398KW for the year (since feb) so maybe a 260ish KW average a month.
Gas - 2408Kw (676m3) I expect this to double as the heating has not been on for months apart from hot water 30mins a day.

Did some more switching off of stuff when out of the house now with some smart plugs and have got the background down to a nice steady 72w
 
Unless its a modern heat-pump tumble drier, that is almost certainly going to be your biggest suspect. The other two should be run on an Eco wash too if you can plan in advance for the time required

We have them all on timers and run during the night at 5p per kWh but they wont be the most efficient appliances as they are all quite old. The dishwasher is 23 years old for starters.
 
The Everhot was something like 8k new, so brilliant to inherit, but being electrically powered I think it may bankrupt us. It's one of those always on ones, like an aga. If you turn it down to try and save energy, it just draws a heck tonne of power to get back up to heat. Reading through all the user manual it boasts about marvellous energy efficiency due to trickle feed technology, but in reality that's a load of marketing guff. They call themselves the most energy efficient range cooker on the market.

Didn't do enough homework to be able to refuse it before it got installed at ours whilst I was offshore with work and so it's a bit too late to do anything about it. At least I can stand in the kitchen and have a warm bum.

Interested to hear if anyone else has one, or similar like electric aga.
Wow those things are going to be crippling. Surely unnecessary in this country, why would you stand having a heat source in your kitchen on all day during the summer?
 
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