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Could be immigrants on RIBS, which is probably a bigger threat to national security globally given the impotence of the RU military.
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Ukraine Invasion - Please do not post videos showing attacks/similar
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Could be immigrants on RIBS, which is probably a bigger threat to national security globally given the impotence of the RU military.
Could well be, I have no idea. I just thought it was quite surreal that we were chilling in the water whilst these vessels were quite clearly keeping an eye on national security issues. First time I've seen something that made me realise quite how serious this could be.
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the fact they are threatening since the first week of this twisted war to use nukes is outrageous, they must get the message that the whole western hemisphere will retaliate with
they probably spotted an octopus and they are after it...
Bit of a tenuous link, but we got back from Antalya this morning where we spent a fair amount of time on the Med. The presence of these coast guard vessels was very noticeable, there were at least 5 of them and one of them at one point was definitely looking for something going by its wake in the distance and the speed it was travelling:
Definitely keeping an eye on things.
they probably spotted an octopus and they are after it...
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I hope you right nuke war will be end of us all and a planet
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Yeah if a nuke gets used by russia can't see how it won't get out of hand.
I mean, how can't it get out of hand? Can't let Russia get away with it. But what can you do without starting a full on nuclear war?
My personal fear through all this is putin feeling he's losing.. Lashing out, and all hell breaking loose. Cornered animal
I mean, how can't it get out of hand? Can't let Russia get away with it. But what can you do without starting a full on nuclear war?
My personal fear through all this is putin feeling he's losing.. Lashing out, and all hell breaking loose. Cornered animal
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Well, that's kinda their job. I'm not sure what you spotting some little patrol boat in the Med on your holiday in Turkey has to do with Ukraine, they've got some tensions with Greece and issues with migrants at the moment but they'll have been patroling waters there for many years. If you were in Gibraltar you might see some Spanish Guardia civil boats.
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Depends what you mean, a big nuclear war between NATO and Russia is rather unlikely at the moment and neither side wants that but there is a risk that Russia might use tactical nuclear weapons and that will almost certainly generate a conventional NATO response.
There are all sorts of ways that could go afterwards, no-fly zone, conventional attacks by NATO on Russian facilities in Ukraine inc Crimea etc. on one hand NATO would almost certainly need to respond to it both as it's an obvious red line and also it would likely affect some NATO members with the fall out thus triggering article 5 but on the other hand it's certainly going to heighten the risk. A response would be necessary IMO but that can also escalate to the point where things go out of control quite quickly.
It's unlikely but it's serious enough to be concerned about which is why the West has held back a bit on arms deliveries, is wary of things that could be seen as an escalation etc. Even if there are tactical nukes used in Ukraine and a conventional response occurs from NATO it isn't necessarily likely that that need escalate further into an exchange of nuclear weapons.
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The one thing that must be off the table is giving into threats. I don’t think the west needs to do much more than stay united and carry on with plan A. We don’t need to escalate, even if he threatens to do so.
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Just for the record I don't read any of these posts, my brain cannot process more than 5lines.
- UK, Poland, Ukraine to Develop Trilateral Co-Operation Including by Strengthening Defence Capabilities of Three Countries and NATO Eastern Flank - Joint Statement From Foreign Ministers
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- U.N. Chief Guterres Tells Security Council Latest Ukraine Developments Are ‘Dangerous and Disturbing’
- Guterres: Debate Around Possible Nuclear Conflict Is ‘Totally Unacceptable’
- Guterres: Deeply Concerned by Plans to Organize so-Called ‘Referenda’
- Guterres: Annexation of a State’s Territory by Another State Using Threat or Use of Force Violates U.N. Charter
- Guterres: Russian Bombardment of Urban Areas in Ukraine Mostly to Blame for Deaths, Injuries of Thousands of Ukrainian Civilians
- Guterres: All Allegations of Human Rights Abuses Must Be Thoroughly Investigated to Ensure Accountability
- Guterres: Full Cooperation With International Criminal Court Is Essential
- Guterres: Situation at Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant Remains of ‘Grave Concern’
- Guterres: if Global Fertilizer Market Is Not Stabilized, Could Spark Food Supply Crisis Next Year, ‘World May Run Out of Food’
- ICC Prosecutor Khan: Has Determined There Are Reasonable Grounds to Believe Crimes Within ICC Jurisdiction Committed in Ukraine
- ICC Prosecutor Khan: Investigation Priorities Are Targeting of Civilian Buildings and Transfer of People, Children From Ukraine
- U.S. Secretary of State Blinken: U.S. Sees Remarkable Unity Among U.N. Members on Russia’s War in Ukraine
- Blinken: Even Nations That Maintain Close Ties With Moscow Have Serious Questions Over Putin’s Invasion
- Blinken: Can’t Let Putin Get Away With ‘Shredding’ the International Order We’ve Gathered to Uphold
- Blinken: Acts of Russian Forces in Places Like Izium Are Not Acts of Rogue Units but Fit ‘Clear Pattern’
- Blinken: The More Setbacks Russian Forces Endure on Battlefield, the Greater the Pain They Inflict on Ukrainian Civilians
- Blinken: Every Council Member Should Send a Clear Message That Russia’s ‘Reckless’ Nuclear Threats Must Stop Immediately
- Blinken: Russia’s Effort to Annex More Ukrainian Territory Is Another Dangerous Escalation
- Blinken: No Russian Claim to Annex Territory Can Take Away Ukraine’s Right to Defend Its Own Land
- Blinken: U.S. Will Continue to Support Ukraine As It Defends Itself, Strengthen Its Hand to Achieve Diplomatic Solution at the Negotiating Table
- Chinese Senior Diplomat Wang Yi: Energy Suppliers and Consumers Should Work Together to Keep Global Energy Market Stable Amid War in Ukraine
- Chinese Senior Diplomat Wang Yi: No Country Should Resort to Arbitrary, Unilateral Sanctions
Keep your posts punchy bud
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Yep it's basically an "after you" move. We won't fire nukes first. Let Russia be the evil nation responsible for escalation.
No dude, I've been on enough beaches to know when something's a bit off. The "little patrol boats" you're referring to are these:
Trust me, seeing 5 of them on the water fairly close to you is a bit of an eye opener.
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This analysis from Justin Bronk on why Russia are unlikely to use nukes is worth 10 minutes of your time:
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Russia's threats 'don't add up' | Justin Bronk
Putin's military escalation is 'six months too late.'Nuclear weapons and further aggression will not deter Kyiv in its quest for liberation, Justin Bronk tel...
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More crazyness
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What are you proposing / thinking it was ?No dude, I've been on enough beaches to know when something's a bit off. The "little patrol boats" you're referring to are these:
Trust me, seeing 5 of them on the water fairly close to you is a bit of an eye opener.
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No idea, someone above suggested it could be a patrol for illegal dinghys. Could also be just keeping an eye out for anything else obvs, but the point I was making was that it was a considerably higher presence than what I would've expected to see.
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Maybe the Russian subs based in Syria are on the move, otherwise they're probably just doing Coast Guardy stuff
Surely in that case, the "issue" could well be with your expectations, not the level of presence they are actually displaying right now?
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